Re^6: 5.10 imminent?

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Re^7: 5.10 imminent? by BrowserUk (Patriarch) on Apr 12, 2007 at 17:00 UTC
Okay, 20 minutes later and I have a version of rsync that seems to run, so I switched into a directory where I'd like the sources put and typed the advised command: c:\Perl\src>rsync -avz rsync://public.activestate.com/perl-current/ receiving file list ... done drwxr-xr-x 6592 2007/04/12 16:55:20 . -rw-r--r-- 6 2007/04/12 16:55:20 .patch -r--r--r-- 31992 2007/03/20 16:06:44 AUTHORS -r--r--r-- 6111 2006/06/13 20:28:51 Artistic -r--r--r-- 3776973 2007/02/27 13:20:45 Changes ... -r--r--r-- 1363 2006/06/13 20:29:38 x2p/str.h -r--r--r-- 3637 2006/06/13 20:29:38 x2p/util.c -r--r--r-- 944 2006/06/13 20:29:38 x2p/util.h -r--r--r-- 48960 2006/06/13 20:29:38 x2p/walk.c sent 99 bytes received 86198 bytes 232.29 bytes/sec total size is 62055224 speedup is 719.09 [download] Result. A 10 minute wait and exactly nothing transferred! Of course you say. If you don't have a copy of bleed perl to be updated, then there is nothing to do? Or maybe I'm using the wrong options? Or... Could I work out what I'm doing wrong (besides following the instructions slavishly)? Maybe, but if the desire is to encourage widespread partisipation in the smoking (Is that legal?) of bleed perl, then it would make sense to make it reasonably easy for people to do so. Without having to ask 20 questions and end up feeling foolish in the process. Because otherwise, those few (non-usual suspects) who decide they'd like to have a go, will stop before they get started. From my perspective, I prefer a link to an archive file that I can download because `wget` knows how to resume a broken download without needing to go through an ever more laborious process of working out how far it got last time and what has changed in the meantime. A download of 15 MB can take me 2 or 3 days. Stuff changes. ISP drop connections. Each time it resumes, there is more stuff at this end to sync, and more likelyhood that stuff at the other has changed. `wget` doesn't have this problem. Examine what is said, not who speaks -- Silence betokens consent -- Love the truth but pardon error. "Science is about questioning the status quo. Questioning authority". In the absence of evidence, opinion is indistinguishable from prejudice. "Too many [] have been sedated by an oppressive environment of political correctness and risk aversion."	[reply] [d/l] [select]
Re^8: 5.10 imminent? by grinder (Bishop) on Apr 12, 2007 at 17:11 UTC
Or maybe I'm using the wrong options? If that was the exact command, then yes. You just spectacularly listed out all the files. You have to put them somewhere... `rsync -avz rsync://public.activestate.com/perl-current/ c:\perl\src` [download] Once you get this up and finally running, it's even better than wget, because rsync will only transfer the deltas of changed files, and handles partially transferred files (following a network drop-out) correctly. Even if I don't sync up for a month, I'll only pull down a few dozen kilobytes of source in the following sync. Please don't give up. Perl hackers on Windows are in short supply. • another intruder with the mooring in the heart of the Perl	[reply] [d/l]
Re^9: 5.10 imminent? by BrowserUk (Patriarch) on Apr 12, 2007 at 21:20 UTC
Now I've got bleed downloaded, built and tested, I looked around the distribution for `smoke`, but there's nothing like that. So I googled for `perl smoke test` and I find lots of references to modules Test::Smoke and CPAN::Smoke etc. but when I look at those modules their synopsis suggest that I'm gonna have to read and understand these modules and then write scripts? And that means that I'm going to have to install this version of perl in preference to my current "production" version so that I can install the module(s)? I also see references to shell scripts and suggestions for adding this to my crontab, whatever that is. Hmm. Like I said elsewhere, if there was a clear set of instructions and it didn't mean screwing up everything else on my system, I'd really like do stuff to help...but this? Someone out there knows exactly how to do this, does it regularly perhaps. Does it need to be this hard? Examine what is said, not who speaks -- Silence betokens consent -- Love the truth but pardon error. "Science is about questioning the status quo. Questioning authority". In the absence of evidence, opinion is indistinguishable from prejudice. "Too many [] have been sedated by an oppressive environment of political correctness and risk aversion."	[reply] [d/l] [select]
Re^10: 5.10 imminent? by demerphq (Chancellor) on Apr 13, 2007 at 11:22 UTC
Re^11: 5.10 imminent? by BrowserUk (Patriarch) on Apr 13, 2007 at 11:44 UTC
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Re^11: 5.10 imminent? by BrowserUk (Patriarch) on Apr 13, 2007 at 13:29 UTC
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Re^9: 5.10 imminent? by BrowserUk (Patriarch) on Apr 12, 2007 at 18:11 UTC
If that was the exact command, then yes. That was the command that ysth linked to....except when I go back to c&p the proof, I notice that I omitted the '.'. In my browser, the combination of green text on mottled green background and the size of the font meant that the dot is next to invisible. Even now I know it's there, it's hard to distinguish it from a spec of dust on my screen. I only saw it at all because I overshot whilst highlighting the text this time and it stood out. (Yes. That's a long and elaborate excuse {blush}). Once you get this up and finally running, it's even better than wget, because rsync will only transfer the deltas of changed files Yes, I understand the logic behind `rsync` but that assumes that I am going to try and keep up to date on a regular basis. That is in itself a barrier to becoming involved. It's not a one-time give something back contribution. It signing up to an ongoing, direct debit commitment. A lifestyle. Becoming a "part of the community". For some, that's the greatest thing since sliced bread, but for many others Perl is just what they do at their day job, a means to and end, not a lifestyle. Conversely, I return from eating my evening meal and `wget` has just worked: c:\Perl\src>wget -c http://public.activestate.com/pub/apc/perl-current +-snap/perl-current-latest.tar.bz2 --17:55:32-- http://public.activestate.com/pub/apc/perl-current-snap/ +perl-current-latest.tar.bz2 => `perl-current-latest.tar.bz2' Resolving public.activestate.com... done. Connecting to public.activestate.com[209.17.146.133]:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: 11,995,312 [application/x-bzip2] 100%[====================================>] 11,995,312 4.20K/s +ETA 00:00 18:42:00 (4.20 KB/s) - `perl-current-latest.tar.bz2' saved [11995312/1 +1995312] [download] Add `c:\Perl\src>u:bunzip2 perl-current-latest.tar.bz2 c:\Perl\src>tar -xvf perl-current-latest.tar` [download] And I'm ready to go. Examine what is said, not who speaks -- Silence betokens consent -- Love the truth but pardon error. "Science is about questioning the status quo. Questioning authority". In the absence of evidence, opinion is indistinguishable from prejudice. "Too many [] have been sedated by an oppressive environment of political correctness and risk aversion."	[reply] [d/l] [select]


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