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Am I an 'Other' or not?

by blazar (Canon)
on May 22, 2007 at 13:22 UTC ( #616760=monkdiscuss: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

Just curious: why does my own name some times appear in the Other Users nodelet's list, appearently on a random basis?

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Re: Am I an 'Other' or not?
by planetscape (Chancellor) on May 22, 2007 at 14:51 UTC

    Your appearance (or not) in Other Users also depends upon whether you checked the hidden login option (or whether it was set for you by, say, a certain option in a tool such as PerlMonks::Mechanized (beta)). IIRC, Other Users refreshes every 2-3 minutes, so you may remain visible for a brief period even after, for example, you login as hidden. Likewise, you may remain invisible for a period of time after you "decloak" by saying something in the CB.


      How does one login as "hidden" ? And what's "decloak" (referenced by both planetscape and blue_cowdawg) ?


        Check the box labelled "pretend I'm not here" here to login as "hidden". "Decloak" may be a reference to the "cloaking technology" that rendered starships invisible in Star Trek. Or not. ;-)


            And what's "decloak"

        If you look at the Chatterbox nodelet under the text input field for that nodelet you'll see a submit button marked "decloak". At least on my browser anyway.

        Peter L. Berghold -- Unix Professional
        Peter -at- Berghold -dot- Net; AOL IM redcowdawg Yahoo IM: blue_cowdawg
Re: Am I an 'Other' or not?
by betterworld (Curate) on May 22, 2007 at 13:42 UTC
    I'd guess that those are users that have accessed the perlmonks web page during the last minutes. So probably you aren't shown in the list if your previous browser request has been too long ago.
Re: Am I an 'Other' or not?
by blue_cowdawg (Monsignor) on May 22, 2007 at 14:53 UTC

    I have occasionally idly wondered myself what the algorithm is for the Other Users list is and for that matter how PM decides when you last visit here was.

    Case in point was one time I used up all my votes and for three days I didn't get replenishment. When I asked the gods why I was told that the Vote Fairy doesn't like folks that don't visit often enough.

    I found that to be a fairly curious answer given that I had not only voted on nodes, but had posted replies as well.

    I do, however, know that if you speak in the CB or hit the decloak button your last visit marker will get updated.

    Peter L. Berghold -- Unix Professional
    Peter -at- Berghold -dot- Net; AOL IM redcowdawg Yahoo IM: blue_cowdawg

      Skulking around in an invisibility cloak doesn't get you noticed by the vote fairy, even if you do stuff like tweaking peoples noses or creating and answering nodes. To get noticed you have to make yourself heard and seen by either removing your cloak or by speaking up in the CB.

      The vote fairy considers it would be too much work to check each of the 41,312 registered monks every night to see if they need their votes topped up, so he only visits the five hundred or so monks who have been seen around the monastery during the previous day.

      For more PM stats see the PerlMonks Statistical Page.

      Update: corrected stats and added link.

      DWIM is Perl's answer to Gödel

      Quoth tye,

      If one pretends not to be here, then the vote fairy thinks there is no way one could have used up one's votes and one doesn't get new votes.

      GrandFather reiterated tye's response later in that thread.

Re: Am I an 'Other' or not?
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