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Good to be home

by wardk (Deacon)
on Apr 06, 2001 at 03:17 UTC ( [id://70341] : perlmeditation . print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

I just spent a better part of my day on the 'net tracking down information regarding Javascript for a system I am supporting. Totally struck out this time, a miserable failure of a search.

My travels today have given me an even greater appreciation of what we have here in the Monastery.

Without going into all the things that soured my entire javascript journey, here are the things that I think we can all very much appreciate about our humble and comfy abode.

  • We have a easily navigable site, it's fast and searches typically bring you so much relevent information, the trouble is mostly determining "which way to do it today".
  • You tend to get immediate/timely responses
  • those responses are typcially on track, and helpful
  • self-policing here tends to work without intervention from a supreme being
  • ...and so does the code
  • popup ads? not a chance
  • areas dedicated to creating popup ads that won't go away are non-existent (i.e. this culture isn't about marketing scams)...and you know, most scammers who arrive looking for help are typcially immediately identified as such...and not glorifed
  • You can rest assure that a designated guru, in fact is.

Whew, this venting monk feels much better now...

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Re: Good to be home
by r.joseph (Hermit) on Apr 06, 2001 at 03:42 UTC
    I fell all warm and fuzzy now... :)

    But sersiouly, ++ wardk, you're absolutely right - I think that many here in the Monestary forget what a wonderful and helpful community this is, and what a unique place it is as well.

    r. j o s e p h
    "Violence is a last resort of the incompetent" - Salvor Hardin, Foundation by Issac Asimov
Re: Good to be home
by seeker (Curate) on Apr 06, 2001 at 14:15 UTC
    I have recently moved from a position where I was the only person in the shop that used Perl to a place where everybody uses Perl. I find that for anyone who is serious about learning Perl, this is the essential resource. My new fellow workers were unaware of this site, but have been subjected to gentle evangelizing.

    One of the important things about this site is the people and sense of community here. This is pretty much the way things would be everywhere in a perfect world.

Re: Good to be home
by how do i know if the string is regular expression (Initiate) on Apr 06, 2001 at 18:38 UTC
    The best thing I've gotten from the site so far is the realization that I suck much more then I thought. Which is a good thing. I went to The University of Perl 2000 in New York and took the "Advanced Perl" and the "Object-Oriented Perl" courses by Nathan Torkington and Damian Conway respectively. After that I felt pretty damn good about my Perl self because I knew about 90% of the stuff they taught. My Perl could kick your ass.

    Then, a month ago, I came here.

    I'd look at question after question... then answer after answer. Now I sit here and flagellate myself... knowing that this pain will make me stronger... faster... and more divine.

    - FrankG

Re: Good to be home
by Boldra (Deacon) on Apr 06, 2001 at 20:18 UTC
    As others have said, the atmosphere here is excellent. Hardly a troll to be seen, helpful people and ontopic, ethical and sensible advice abounds.

    Is it all because of the monastary analogy??

    I think associating this site with a monastary works beautifully. While a monastary is a peaceful, contemplative place, it is also a place for hard work and practical behaviour. Of course, much of the discussion here is academic in nature, there is always the flipside practical element dropping in.

    "P is for Practical"

    One of the other things I love about this place is the conspicuous absence of people telling you what to do. Considering how similar this site is to everything2, it's remarkable how few 'dogmatic' documents there are here compared with there.

    Perhaps it's the crowd? Many of the monks have their own sites - both personal and professional - so they know first hand how little a troll can accomplish. Having had a significant background in community websites myself, I have no difficulties dealing with trolls.

    I also find that there is so much less pressure here than on other sites. You advance in the monastary at your own pace, with minimal incentives to rush to the top.
    I'm sorry if I'm rambling, but what I'm saying here is that we have a great site here, not just a great perl site. Good work vroom!
Re: Good to be home
by satchboost (Scribe) on Apr 06, 2001 at 19:25 UTC
    Even though I've been coding Perl for over 2 years, it wasn't till I came here that I realized just what a newbie I really was (and still am, for that matter). The breadth of power that Perl has very ... intimidating, frankly. Unless you have exposure to a lot of situations, you never realize that Perl really can do that!

    While I don't usually have many questions, I love reading all the questions that everyone else has. It allows me to learn that Foo is a solution to problem Bar without having to deal with problem Bar in the first place.

    I don't know what I'm trying to say. "Thank you" is probably it.

Re: Good to be home
by Hero Zzyzzx (Curate) on Apr 06, 2001 at 18:20 UTC
    <mushystuff>

    I couldn't agree more about what a resource we have. I've learned more from this site about coding in perl in a couple of months than I thought I could.

    As a contrast, I have the unfortunate responsibility of managing a website built in Lotus Domino. The Lotus.com website is horrible (just try finding something by searching. Good luck!), the Lotus support is non-existent, and Lotus is completely oblivious to fixing bugs unless you're paying major $ for a support contract.

    I'm in the process of figuring out the best way to move this Domino site into a mySQL/perl structure because I'm sick of Lotus, the bugs Domino has (and the inability to generate work-arounds in many cases), and the lack of a truly good community (yes I know about notes.net).

    A couple of reasons I'm so jazzed to move this site into perl/mySQL are:

    • Infinite possibilities in perl for building dynamic websites,
    • It's hard for me to pay money for an inferior product,
    • and this site. I know if there's something I need/want to accomplish, I'll have backup if I need it.
    </mushystuff>
Re: Good to be home
by andye (Curate) on Apr 06, 2001 at 18:17 UTC
    I find it very valuable, and I could do with similar sites for other areas of work.

    Does anyone know of a decent, Perl-Monks-like site for database work? All I've found so far is orafans, which isn't really what I'm looking for.

    andy.

Re: Good to be home
by thabenksta (Pilgrim) on Apr 06, 2001 at 23:00 UTC

    I have only been a member for like a month, and I allready feel at home. I come here everyday, and everyday I learn something. It's a great Idea, with a great bunch of people.

    Except for arhuman and alfie, cause the made fun of my home node yesterday.(jk) =P

    my $name = 'Ben Kittrell'; $name=~s/^(.+)\s(.).+$/\L$1$2/g; my $nick = 'tha' . $name . 'sta';