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Re^2: New Feature For Simple Search

by mikelieman (Friar)
on Dec 30, 2008 at 14:39 UTC ( [id://733257]=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re: New Feature For Simple Search
in thread New Feature For Simple Search

I usually just toss 'site:perlmonks.org' into a google search with my desired search terms, and I get a pretty comprehensive index.

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Re^3: New Feature For Simple Search
by creamygoodness (Curate) on Dec 30, 2008 at 16:38 UTC

    Of course. But that's not what the big "Search" box in the upper left hand corner of this page does.

    We present the noobs with a prominent but sucky site search and then berate them for their ignorance when they ask a question that's already been answered. Why? To make ourselves feel smarter?

    --
    Marvin Humphrey

      I'm glad to see you're not all talk, that you're actually doing something.

      Btw... How's that going? Going to have something ready to show us Real Soon Now?

      Between the mind which plans and the hands which build, there must be a mediator... and this mediator must be the heart.

        It was too much hassle. We couldn't get access to a full database dump, but had to spider the site incrementally. The PerlMonks powers-that-be wouldn't grant access to node rep, which would have been highly useful in improving relevancy and user satisfaction; presumably if we had acquired access, that would have necessitated another round of spidering. Dmitri dropped out.

        I'm no longer a consultant but have taken a full-time position, so I have less fungible time in general, and I'm disinclined to spend it fighting institutional resistance at PerlMonks to a custom-coded search. Nevertheless, my current work assignment is to add several features to KinoSearch and get a release out the door, so in some sense I'll continue to contribute indirectly.

        Google is already an accepted alternative around here, and it provides a significant improvement over both simple Search and SuperSearch. Naturally I would prefer to see a custom-coded search powered by an open-source full-text indexer like KS, Xapian, or Swish, but life is full of compromises, and one of the gods chatterboxed me a while back that he didn't want the maintenance burden and preferred Google. Changing the Search box so that it uses Google rather than the current engine would be a decent compromise.

        --
        Marvin Humphrey
        Maybe you didn't mean it, but your post comes across as condescending, especially given creamygoodness' reasonable explanation of why that project has not proceeded.

        Elda Taluta; Sarks Sark; Ark Arks

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