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Re: perl and forums

by jh- (Scribe)
on Jan 27, 2009 at 05:06 UTC ( [id://739105]=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to perl and forums

YaBB is probably the biggest Perl-based forum software available. I haven't used it a lot, but from what I've seen it's pretty nice.

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Re^2: perl and forums
by SilasTheMonk (Chaplain) on Jan 27, 2009 at 08:20 UTC
    The issue I have with YaBB is that SMF is a port of YaBB to PHP. So development has apparently stopped on PHP. That is not good from my point of view. So a perl alternative has to be vibrant and still under active development if I am to try and open negotiations with the hosting provider over an alternative. I suppose I am meeting the limits of my perlophilia.

      YaBB is still under active development. I know, because I'm one of the developers on the project ;-)

      We're focusing on the next major version which is a rewrite using much better coding standards.

      edit

      SMF used to be called YaBB SE, which was a direct port of YaBB to PHP. Development hasn't stopped on the PHP version of YaBB, because there never was a PHP version of YaBB. YaBB SE turned into SMF, mainly because they felt that people were prejudiced against YaBB, simply because it's Perl.

      If your web host is pushing for a non-Perl forum, ask them for their reasons, because we've (the dev team) seen--and refuted--them all.

Re^2: perl and forums
by DrHyde (Prior) on Jan 27, 2009 at 10:33 UTC
    From the user's point of view, YaBB is quite good. However, from the programmer's point of view it's a screaming nightmare, and I wouldn't trust it to be secure. I have posted in another place about YaBB's failings.
      You posted that four years ago. Much has changed since then. I haven't looked at the code for the current line (YaBB 2) lately (I'm working on YaBB 3), but it has been cleaned up quite a bit, according to the other developers.
      I started reading that but it does not seem so much an attack on YaBB as on forums in general.

        You must have missed the bits where I pointed out that YaBB was missing important features like threading, YaBB didn't support users being in multiple groups without third-party add-ons, YaBB mixes code and presentation, and YaBB's code was utterly hideous!

        The only way that could possibly be read as an attack on forums in general is if those criticisms also applied to all other forums. We know that at least the first doesn't, as threading is supported here.

        But as Brother Assemble wrote, my information may be quite out-of-date now, so I suppose YaBB might be worth looking at. Just be wary.

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