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Re: Re: PerlMonks as Ambassadors

by Albannach (Monsignor)
on Apr 21, 2001 at 01:57 UTC ( #74344=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

in reply to Re: PerlMonks as Ambassadors
in thread PerlMonks as Ambassadors

A tutorial on how to RTFM? That's a joke right (no offense meant)? The problem isn't so much a lack of documentation here, it's either a lack of willingness to help oneself (you point of wanting a solution is spot on! Are we being too stuck-up in thinking that people should know how to do things? I don't think so but...), or possibly ignorance. The first we can't help, so we can either tolerate it or think up schemes to prevent it (such as preventing the Anonymous Monk from posting but I certainly don't support that either). Your idea of a cooling off period is intriguing however.

The second we might be able to work on by making the posting instructions as clear and helpful as possible. There must be something missing in interpretation when so many posters don't even know about code tags, or wonder why the preview looks awful. Unfortunately I don't know what it is. In any case this topic will keep coming back until it is resolved, so it does deserve some creative thinking.

Update: Thanks for the clarification Masem, but I had pretty much figured something like that. Though I was being a tad flippant, my point is that people are reading very little now, and adding something else to read is not likely to help much. I think what you describe would be useful to many, just not those that we're apt to get most frustrated with.

I'd like to be able to assign to an luser

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Re: Re: Re: PerlMonks as Ambassadors
by Masem (Monsignor) on Apr 21, 2001 at 02:18 UTC
    The proposed tutorial on RTFM was not on how to read it, but how to use the existing perl documentation effectively, including man, perldoc, using sites like,, as well as the perl docs here. This includes understanding how perl documentation is broken down and where finding certain bits of info would be most likely.
    Dr. Michael K. Neylon - || "You've left the lens cap of your mind on again, Pinky" - The Brain
Re: Re: Re: PerlMonks as Ambassadors
by providencia (Pilgrim) on Apr 23, 2001 at 20:14 UTC
    When I first started using computers I got on bulletin boards.
    There was one bulletin board that was modified so that new users could
    only access certain areas. This allowed me access to a test message group
    and to use the download area for downloading help files. This helped me from being red-faced.
    Other boards I went to before didn't offer this.
    So being new to computers and to bulletin boards I made LOTS of mistakes until I got on that one board.

    It was very helpful. Maybe this might not be a bad idea for perlmonks.
    I know that for the first three days here I read the docs specific to this site.
    Thank goodness it's offered not to mention visible as soon as you get to the site.
    That was very helpful and even though I still made some mistakes I didn't make huge blunders.

    I am looking right now at something that says Writeup Formatting Tips a quick read that was very helpful.

    Okay my point. Although I took some time when I just began to look at posts
    and see what was already being posted before I began.
    Others may not. A introductory period isn't a bad idea but something helpful should be offered.
    I just didn't want that forgotten.
    An intoductory period without something constructive could be worse in the long-run regarding reputation.

    "Lights, Camel, Action!"
    A Fierce Pancake(1988) *Charleton Heston*(track 8)

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