Re^9: No votes (not an apologist)

[tye]

Perhaps "apologist" means something different to you than it does to me. Your words seem to imply that you consider the term an insult. None of the definitions I browsed quite match how I'm familiar with the word being used, but then none of them seem to imply that the term is derogatory either.

Your reply makes it clear that you weren't trying to make excuses for the OP. Prior to that, it sounded to me like that was exactly what you were doing. Surely, due to the context of your words and you not clearly reframing your remarks... which actually talk very specifically about manoj_speed, Co-Rion, and "/msg gods". So "talking in general terms" still isn't evident to me upon re-reading.

But, yes, I probably misused the word "apologist" and I apologize for insulting you¹ and attest that this was not my intent. And I now believe that you were not making excuses. Thank you for clarifying that.

¹ I presume, but admit that I am guessing as to what precisely it "being beneath me" was meant to imply, so I apologize again in case "insulting you" was not what I did.

So it seems that we aren't actually in disagreement (other than my unfortunate misuse of "apologist" -- sorry, again). Or, to be clearer, I am not in disagreement with you. Thanks.

[Argel]

You mentioned context, and my OP was certainly written within the context of this thread. Monks were mentioning things like "/mgs gods", "a reply to Co-rion would have sufficed", and basically saying that accessing one's inbox is easy to do. It's not hard to take the general case (the first part of the paragraph in my OP) and then use this thread as an example of how the general case might apply. Although with that said I will admit that combining the general case and the example into one paragraph had the unintended consequence of blurring the line between the two.

Regarding "apologist", dictionaries cover definitions, not connotations. If you search for "apologist" on Google News it should quickly become apparent that it is almost always used in a negative way (i.e. with negative connotations).

Update: And yes, it does seem that we are in agreement. Which makes a lot more sense to me as we tend to agree on issues like this more than disagree. It's threads like these that actually make me appreciate The Monastery. I mean, if discussions like this, patching up misunderstandings, etc. cannot happen then it's not really much of a community.