Re: XML Application Servers

[mirod]

As far as I know Axkit is the only XML application server in Perl. I don't have any practical experience with it, but from AxKit.com, AxKit.orgthe traffic on the AxKit mailing list and the fact that it is written by Matt Sergeant it looks like it is well supported.

AxKit supports 2 stylesheet languages: XSLT (through interfaces to Sablotron, Xalan and libXSLT) and XPathScript, which I think was once called notXSLT, which is a more Perlish stylesheet language written by Matt.

I am not sure about the PDF and RTF output though, but you can certainly subscribe to the AxKit mailing list which should be at http://axkit.org/mailinglist.xml and ask for more info.

[Coyote]

The AxKit-CMS product (http://www.axkit.com) looks like it will do about 80% of what I need, however after looking at XSLT (which makes my eyes hurt) and XPathScript (much better) I'm not sure I understand the advantages to using a transformation language such as XSLT over doing it directly in perl. Anyone have any insight on this?

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Coyote

[mirod]

Hey! Don't press my buttons!

I have no idea why people like XSLT. My theory is that it is an easy sell: it is not too difficult to write a demo thingie that converts baby-xml to not-so-good-looking HTML, so people can get started with it quite easily. Plus it can be sold as a "stylesheet language", which makes PHB's happy because it sounds like they can hire cheap designers to develop with it.

Of course as soons as you need to do serious processing with it you realize it is not a complete language (before I get flamed for that, I just mean that it lacks the power of a real language (not to mention CPAN)), and that the ugly syntax makes it very hard to maintain (and a pain to write).

So I guess there is a niche for XSLT, for simple transformations that require very limited interraction with the world outside of the document,. The only problem is that it is now sold as the one and only way to process XML, which tends to rub me the wrong way...

Plus generally speaking I hate languages with a bracketty syntax!

OK, I feel better now, back to hacking Twig!