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Re: style guidance

by ikegami (Patriarch)
on Nov 07, 2009 at 23:39 UTC ( [id://805697]=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to style guidance

Don't assign to a global variable without localising it. You just clobbered your parent's data.
sub do_stuff1 { local $_ = shift; chomp; say; }
or even safer:
sub do_stuff1 { ${ local *_ } = shift; chomp; say; }

The latter handles the case where $_ is tied or otherwise magical. For example, $_ is magical if the parent does

for (..., $tied, ...) { ... do_stuff1(...); ... }
or
for (..., substr($s, ...), ...) { ... do_stuff1(...); ... }

You've ended up complicating things instead of simplifying them. It's best not to use $_ here.

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Re^2: style guidance
by JavaFan (Canon) on Nov 08, 2009 at 00:53 UTC
    Don't assign to a global variable without localising it. You just clobbered your parent's data.
    Of course, the parent could protect its $_ my using a lexical variable. And so can do_stuff1. local $_ is in idiom I've had no need for the past 2 years.
    sub do_stuff1 { my $_ = shift; chomp; say; }
    You also wrote:
    or even safer:
    sub do_stuff1 { local *_; $_ = shift; ... }
    Safer? You should test your code if you label it 'safe', or 'safer'. I guess you didn't realize that local *_; also gives you a new value for @_, so you no longer have access to the subs parameters?

      You seem to imply it's not safer. Having a bug doesn't make it unsafe, it's makes it buggy.

      You're also wrong that I don't realize @_ also gets affected. It just slipped through the cracks even though I remembered while I was composing the post. I usually use local * to do aliasing where this isn't a problem. I never localize $_ because it's suppose to be a shortcut but ends up longer.

      Fixed.

      As for my $_, that's new to the current version. Most people who come here don't use the latest version of Perl yet. I was going for a working solution, not a theoretical one. Thanks for mentioning it as an alternative, though.

Re^2: style guidance
by 7stud (Deacon) on Nov 09, 2009 at 00:02 UTC

    Thanks for the guidance. I'm trying to digest it all.

    Don't assign to a global variable without localising it. You just clobbered your parent's data.

    I guess you mean like this:

    use strict; use warnings; use 5.010; sub do_stuff { foreach (1..5) { &dangerous($_); say "calculation in do_stuff(): ", $_ * 10; } } sub dangerous { $_ = shift; $_ *= 100; say "calculation in dangerous(): $_" } &do_stuff(); --output:-- calculation in dangerous(): 100 calculation in do_stuff(): 1000 calculation in dangerous(): 200 calculation in do_stuff(): 2000 calculation in dangerous(): 300 calculation in do_stuff(): 3000 calculation in dangerous(): 400 calculation in do_stuff(): 4000 calculation in dangerous(): 500 calculation in do_stuff(): 5000

    By the way, I'm calling all user defined functions using the syntax &func() because the llama 5th ed. merely says that the & prevents name clashes with perl functions, therefore beginners should use the & until they become familiar with the names of perl functions. However, from the comments I gather there is more to it than that.

    sub do_stuff1 { local $_ = shift; chomp; say; }
    I don't understand what local() does differently than my(). I read the docs, and I don't understand the difference.
    or even safer:
    
    sub do_stuff1 {
        ${ local *_ } = shift;
        chomp;
        say;
    }
    
    The latter handles the case where $_ is tied or otherwise magical.

    What does that * notation do, and could you give some more details why that is safer than local $_? Maybe an example?

    Thanks.

      the & prevents name clashes with perl function

      & is not a no-op. It causes prototypes to be ignored.

      I don't understand what local() does differently than my().

      my should be used whenever possible, but it's not possible to use my on package variables.

      >perl -e"my $_" Can't use global $_ in "my" at -e line 1, at end of line Execution of -e aborted due to compilation errors.

      $_ was made a legal name for a lexical in 5.10, and builtins will use the lexical $_ instead of the global $_ if there is one in scope, but not everyone is using 5.10 yet.

      What does that * notation do

      One reason my is preferred over local is that my creates a new variable, whereas local simply saves the variables current value (and restores it on scope exit). Any magic associated with the variable is unaffected by local.

      You can localise the variable rather than its value by localising the glob that contains the variable. A glob is an associative array (like a hash) that contains the different type of variables ($name, @name, %name) associated with each name in the symbol table.

      local *_ localises the whole glob, which means a new $_ will be created if one is needed.

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