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Re^3: The first lambda language to go mainstream ?

by Fox (Pilgrim)
on Aug 11, 2010 at 14:31 UTC ( #854393=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


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in thread The first lambda language to go mainstream ?

It all depends on what 'mainstream' means.

JS got a lot more attention because you simply can't use any other language to script sites.
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Re^4: The first lambda language to go mainstream ?
by ikegami (Pope) on Aug 11, 2010 at 19:35 UTC
    Flash is quite popular.

      Now that they're converging into ECMAscript, one could make the argument that Flash is just gussied up JavaScript, but that wasn't always true.

Re^4: The first lambda language to go mainstream ?
by CountZero (Bishop) on Aug 11, 2010 at 14:55 UTC
    Perlscript, VBscript, TCL, ...

    CountZero

    A program should be light and agile, its subroutines connected like a string of pearls. The spirit and intent of the program should be retained throughout. There should be neither too little or too much, neither needless loops nor useless variables, neither lack of structure nor overwhelming rigidity." - The Tao of Programming, 4.1 - Geoffrey James

      perlscript is NOT mainstream, neither is VBscript (VB might be), don't know about TCL
        Sorry, I wasn't clear: I was answering the assertion "JS got a lot more attention because you simply can't use any other language to script sites.", which is clearly incorrect.

        CountZero

        A program should be light and agile, its subroutines connected like a string of pearls. The spirit and intent of the program should be retained throughout. There should be neither too little or too much, neither needless loops nor useless variables, neither lack of structure nor overwhelming rigidity." - The Tao of Programming, 4.1 - Geoffrey James

      sorry, but making sites only for IE won't do it anymore.

      Never heard of using TCL before, but as far as I searched it's only usable through a plugin, no good either.
        Why would a plug-in disqualify it? Flash needs a plug-in and it is considered mainstream.

        I do agree TCL is not mainstream, but that was not the point: I only wanted to show that there are other scripts than JavaScript one can use in a webpage.

        CountZero

        A program should be light and agile, its subroutines connected like a string of pearls. The spirit and intent of the program should be retained throughout. There should be neither too little or too much, neither needless loops nor useless variables, neither lack of structure nor overwhelming rigidity." - The Tao of Programming, 4.1 - Geoffrey James

Re^4: The first lambda language to go mainstream ?
by LanX (Bishop) on Aug 11, 2010 at 19:08 UTC
    It all depends on what 'mainstream' means.

    JS got a lot more attention because you simply can't use any other language to script sites.

    You are restricting mainstream to webclients, sites are quite often realized with Perl! :)

    IMHO mainstream means widely known and used. Dylan or Factor are't mainstream.

    Cheers Rolf

Re^4: The first lambda language to go mainstream ?
by rowdog (Curate) on Aug 12, 2010 at 19:07 UTC
    It all depends on what 'mainstream' means.

    Indeed, and I find any definition of 'mainstream' that doesn't include Perl to be full of crap.

    For most of the 90's, CGI was practically synonymous with Perl. Sure, you could write CGI in C, C++, shell, or TCL, but almost nobody did. But hey, I'm sure the server side didn't count as 'mainstream'.

    Okay, so you could argue that was the past and Perl's dead. I still disagree. The vast majority of Linux distros include Perl in their baseline installation. You can talk about the lack of Linux on the desktop but you'd be a fool to discard the massive uptake of Linux (and thus Perl) in the server space.

    Perl comes as part OSX too. I suppose that means Apple isn't 'mainstream' either.

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