in reply to Blocking users

(Update: All solutions untested - just to be clear) If you use the following css in your local css configuration:

.node-from-NNNNNN { display: none; } /* Newest nodes (and ot +hers?) */ #id-9488 .auth-NNNNNN { display: none; } /* Worst nodes */ #id-397425 .nnt-auth-NNNNNN { display: none; } /* RAT */

... where NNNNNN is the appropriate node ID of the user, I believe this will hide at least all root level nodes from that particular user. I also think (but have not checked) if when using the nested divs display mode that this will hide from that point down.

Update: Added ID strings for other pages

In the CB you can use /ignore USERNAME to hide the user.


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Re^2: Blocking users
by Old_Gray_Bear (Bishop) on Jul 20, 2011 at 17:51 UTC
    First off -- Thank You!!!!

    Every group needs a 'Coventry' to send the bad-actors to, so they can act up all they want and not annoy the Adults. It is good to have this tool available.

    Secondly, I am of mixed emotions about blocking Logicus/Simon completely. I understand the reasoning that made you create this tool, but.

    The three days ago, for the first time in my years in the monastery, I /ignore'd someone in the CB. After a reading couple of Logicus's early nodes and responses to the comments, I put Him on the mental "skip this twit" list and haven't bothered reading anything else He authored. I skip Him in the responses as well, unless reading a non-Logicus comment make me go 'What DID he say?!'

    If We just 'Ignore the Troll Under the Blanket', Logicus will either get bored and take his marbles and go elsewhere; or he may grow out of this phase and become a productive member of Our Community.

    And, if we totally suppress Him, we expose ourselves to a potentially very bad problem.

    The Old Timers will (most of them, anyway) will have invoked Coventry against Logicus; thus the New Comers, not knowing about Coventry, will get the full 'benefit' of Logicus -- with out any counter balancing commentary from the likes of Corion or MidLifeXis and others.

    If the first thing an Initiate sees is Logicus' drivel unanswered by a reasonable voice, we will lose the Good Ones and re-enforce bad behavior on the Ones who stay. We can't afford to let His drivel go unanswered. We only get once chance to make a good first impression.

    We are something not unlike a debating society here, asking questions and challenging answers, to reach the Truth (version 6.1, release on Whitsunday, up coming). For this to work, we do have to put up with the occasional Fool; they eventually figure things out. (I do wish WasserKratz were still around. though. I'd pay good money to watch the two of them mix it up....)

    Complete masking Logicus is so tempting, but also something that I'd have to think long and hard about. People like that will feel 'marginalized' or 'discriminated against' and the drop of a semi-colon. People like that get noisy in public. People like that go 'postal'. (Although, from personal experience, working in a mail center is a lot less mind-numbing boring than working on an industrial assembly line.)

    Right now, we know what he is saying and writing about the Monastery, about Perl, about the World in General. If we completely Coventry him, we won't know what He said until way after the damage is done. I think we want our Problem Children to be publicly visible so we can correct any impression that "the Perl Monks Monastery is composed of Whack-Jobs like that Logicus bloke."

    Invisible people are dangerous people.

    I Go Back to Sleep, Now.


      Though I disagree with it, I can respect the concerted effort by several members to encourage this person into becoming a part of the community.

      I would love to see the same effort made for a few of the new visitors who stop by each week and make an imperfect post. The same effort that has been shown by a few to work with this person in the CB would be great to see extended to other new visitors unsure of how to ask a question and/or with an imperfect grasp of English. In the time our shiny new toy has been here there have been people who have posted, been blown off and faded away.

      Once in a while this gets discussed on it's own and some people make a better effort to give newbies the benefit of the doubt. Some don't and honestly that's fine (I've been guilty of doing both). What I don't find to be fine is the significant knowledge that has been monopolized when spending half of that on just two or three others would (IMO) have been a better contribution to the community.

      If the effort can be made for someone who has (again IMO) done so little to garner good will here after a few hundred posts, can't it also be made for visitors (even if they are unprepared) on their first few posts?

      "...the adversities born of well-placed thoughts should be considered mercies rather than misfortunes." Don Quixote

      I assume that your post is "in general" and not directed toward me specifically. I do agree with your point about wanting to see the behavior in order to provide a response if warranted. As such, I don't ever see myself using this set of CSS.

      That being said, however, I can see it being useful in certain situations, and as some may want the solitude or a reprieve, I provided the information.

      On a somewhat similar topic, I wonder if it would make sense to make the class that identifies the "owner" of a set of data consistent. Currently I have found three similar class names, and am guessing that there may be a couple more.


      On the contrary, people responding to a troll are just as much a part of the problem as the troll is!

      As I indicated in Do Not Feed the Trolls!!!, responding to a troll is feeding it the attention it needs. Ignore the troll, and the fun goes away. Starving a troll is one of the most effective ways to get rid of it.

      Updates: Some of you may also find tye's post about the difference between a flamer and a troll enlightening. It's very good and I encourage everyone to read it. Here's an excerpt that seems relevant to the current situation:

      And if you are trying to only respond to a troll's reasonable postings [you are] encouraging more trolling behavior [by] giving them one more type of bait to drag around waiting for the next gullible fish.

      Elda Taluta; Sarks Sark; Ark Arks
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        Is every post from this point on by a particular user to be ignored, even if there is a complete turn-around in behavior? That seems to be the suggestion being made. "Discipline" without the potential of rewarding good behavior seems to me to be vindictive and at odds with a monastic ethos of self improvement.

        I would agree that responding to obviously trollish posts is counterproductive and probably even detrimental to the overall health of the monastery, but I would also suggest that a 100% blackout is as well.


Re^2: Blocking users
by luis.roca (Deacon) on Jul 20, 2011 at 11:50 UTC

    Thank you! This works perfectly on Newest Nodes, Recent Threads and Worst Nodes for all his posts! but I still see his threads on both Recent Threads and Worst Nodes (which he's dominated for over a week now).

    However Not having any of those threads or replies on newest nodes, recent threads or worst nodes is definitely worth a beer or two. So if we're ever in each other's area - I'm buying :-)

    • UPDATE: Looks like I misspoke in my excitement. This works solely with his posts but not replies to his posts from other monks. My offer, however, remains the same ;-)
    • UPDATE (2011 July 30th, Wednesday 9:37AM): WOOOOO-HOOOOOOO!!!! It all works perfectly now! ++MidLifeXis

    "...the adversities born of well-placed thoughts should be considered mercies rather than misfortunes." Don Quixote