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Re: Put some of the posting guidelines directly above the posting form:

by educated_foo (Vicar)
on Dec 04, 2011 at 13:44 UTC ( #941655=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Put some of the posting guidelines directly above the posting form:

If some clueless person won't click on the link, they also won't read a giant blob of boilerplate text above the text box, or obey the commands next to some BS checkbox. The voting system, helped along by tireless scolds, does about the best job possible in dealing with the clueless.
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Re^2: Put some of the posting guidelines directly above the posting form:
by JavaFan (Canon) on Dec 05, 2011 at 12:24 UTC
    The voting system, helped along by tireless scolds, does about the best job possible in dealing with the clueless.
    I don't think the intersection of the set of the "clueless" people with the set of people that care about their XP is a very big set.

    Besides, all that will happen is that people will select a radio button. It doesn't *mean* anything.

    Now, if you want something to change, don't reward people who violate the guidelines. How do you do that? Don't answer the questions. How do you enforce not answering the question? Well, luckely, the intersection of the set of people answering with the set of people caring about their XP is much higher. So, penalize people who answer posts that violate posting guidelines. Remove 50% of their XP. Remove 50% of the XP of anyone who has upvoted such a post.

Re^2: Put some of the posting guidelines directly above the posting form:
by TJPride (Pilgrim) on Dec 04, 2011 at 15:02 UTC
    Not asking for a giant blob of boilerplate, just a couple lines reminding them to supply input data. Judging by what a lot of people post, it's fairly obvious they don't have a clue they're supposed to give us examples of input / output, and it's probably because the reminder is on a separate page rather than right above the submission box.
      It will grow. You just want input/output. Next, someone will want the code to start with "use strict;\nuse warnings;\n\n". Then someone will want a high-level problem description, or a list of what the OP has tried, or the output of perl -V, or some other random thing. What if input/output is superfluous or unhelpful?

      If you want to help someone, then help them. If not, then don't. Aggressive pestering wastes your time, and doesn't help anyone.

        educated_foo++

        Your last paragraph should be included at the top of the page (bold, red, blinking etc.) when anyone replies. :-)

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