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Re^5: Fix the Perl News header

by educated_foo (Vicar)
on Mar 27, 2012 at 02:00 UTC ( #961811=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

in reply to Re^4: Fix the Perl News header
in thread Fix the Perl News header

How many personal blogs should count as Perl "news"? That's what PerlBuzz is, and Mr. Lester isn't even a significant Perl contributor (unless you count adding the "const" keyword). I would say "none," because there are too many to include them all.

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Re^6: Fix the Perl News header
by Happy-the-monk (Canon) on Mar 27, 2012 at 05:40 UTC

    So the blog - the news - is the significant contribution to Perl.

    There's Perl, the language... perl & CPAN, the implementation... and there is also the Perl Community and Perl Monks is far from being all of it.

    Also, there apparently are some people who seem to be good at everything and it looks as if they do well everywhere and have got time for all kinds of things. But more often then not, people will do one thing very well, or just a few things, and devote their time for that purpose. That is of real value, too.

    Cheers, Sören

Re^6: Fix the Perl News header
by pemungkah (Priest) on Mar 28, 2012 at 02:02 UTC
    Andy's too nice to mention it, but WWW::Mechanize for heaven's sake. If that's not a contribution then I've definitely never contributed anything.
      He did some good CPAN work in the past. AFAICT, he's not the original author, or even the current maintainer, but the maintainer between 2005 and 2010.
Re^6: Fix the Perl News header
by petdance (Parson) on Mar 27, 2012 at 15:50 UTC
    Do you have a standard in mind?

    What, in your estimation, does someone have to do in order to be deemed "a significant Perl contributor"?


      As I said in the previous post, "no personal blogs." There are too many Perl core contributors with blogs for the average Perl user to read all of them, and there's no single "pumpking blog," so the best policy is for no personal blog to get special mention. A few automated, widely-used RSS aggregators are the best starting-point for Perl news.

      As for what (IMHO) someone has to do be a "significant" Perl contributor... Adding a substantial user-visible feature and spending substantial thought and time on the day-to-day business of Perl maintenance count. Cosmetic, mindless source code changes (e.g. replacing tabs with spaces) don't.

      EDIT: Cute:

      Reputation: -2 (+0 -2)
      So petdance and one other person won't tolerate even mild, tangential criticism of petdance.
        So if you don't work on core Perl 5, you don't count as a significant Perl contributor? That's pretty limiting, since there are only a few dozen of those people, and Perl 5 is far more than what ships in an individual perl-5.x.x.tar.gz tarball.

        (FWIW, adding const to pointer arguments is not about cosmetics, but about allowing the compiler and static analysis tools to better understand the passing of data into and out of functions. This helps detect uninitialized data errors. Here's a thread you may find informative:

        You slight literally thousands of CPAN authors with your standards, saying that they are not "significant Perl contributors", and I suspect you're alone in your assessment. CPAN authors who create and maintain the tens of thousands of modules that make up the CPAN, whether little-used or wildly popular like Moose and Dancer, are making Perl 5 a much better place.


        A few automated, widely-used RSS aggregators are the best starting-point for Perl news.

        That's a good general policy, and it's easy to understand and support.

        You don't have to defend it by tearing down the work of other people.

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