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First an apology. I --'d your node when I meant to ++. The tired old brain didn't quite manage to stop the fingers from hitting the return key when the eyes eventually told it about my stupidity. If one of the gods want's to fix it feel free :-)

I also have no time and yet I find myself porting small pieces of p5 code to p6 just to see how to do it.

Then you obviously have more time than I do. Where do you purchase it and can I get a bulk discount :-)

Have you seen Perl6::Bible?

Yup. I also read all the Apocalypses, Synopses and Exegeses when they first came out. I even read through a few of the revisions. However "Reference Material" wasn't on my wish list - I want "good pedagogical material". A12 may cover the Perl 6 OO system - but it can hardly be called a tutorial.

Not that this is the fault of Larry et al - they were not written to be tutorials. In any case with the hugely impressive development speed of PUGS, and the number of changes being made to exactly what this particular bit of Perl 6 really means, tutorials would be premature.

However, with my current lack of free time, I can't spend the time to think hard about the A/E/S docs, post questions on perl6-language, IRC, etc. to get my head straight.

At the moment, if I was going to learn Perl 6 with the time available to me, I'd need the Perl 6 version of Perl 5's Camel book, or Ruby's Pickaxe book. Or at least the moral equivalent of perlboot and friends. Some sugar to make the medicine go down.

At the absolute least I'd love to see item 3 of autrijus's wishlist and have "A more stable core language definition, with both online and offline documentation".

Well, as much of PGE (rules) that from pmichaud is available to http://pugscode.org and p5 regexen via PCRE are also available.

Well gosh darn it - if you aren't right :-) Managed to miss that somehow. Named rules too. Excellent. Consider me slightly more tempted to play.

While full OO support isn't in yet, a great deal is. And when you find something missing that you want - ask for it (really). Having a real need for something is usually motivation enough for the people with time to implement it.

Unfortunately I don't yet have the necessary knowledge to ask in a sane manner. Without more time and/or better documentation I'm not going to be able to acquire it in the near future. So I'll just have to wait patiently.

See Get Involved With Pugs for more information.

Got any spare tuits :-)

Oh, by the way - Pugs can use CPAN modules now!!

Jolly good.


None of this is, of course, a complaint. Quite the opposite. I am positively stunned at the progress of PUGS/Perl 6. I'd never have thought things could have progressed so quickly. It's just not a party that my personal circumstances will allow me to join at the moment.


In reply to Re^3: Why aren't you using Perl 6 yet? by adrianh
in thread Why aren't you using Perl 6 yet? by revdiablo

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