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well I thought it was quite clear that I was talking about the marketing effect of an official new major release.

No, it wasn't entirely clear to me, but in this case I'm suspicious of my own biases coloring my readings of what you wrote, and it's been a long week for me. Apologies again if warranted.

Still, I claim that other than being able to call a successor-to-5-release "Perl 6", the existence of Perl 6 doesn't block improvements to Perl's marketing efforts or the ability to create "an official new major release" of Perl 5. In this respect, I think names like "Perl Renaissance" and "Modern Perl" can have a lot more impact in announcing "major release" than a simple number increment could ever do. But I also believe that Perl 5 leaders are far more qualified and capable to make those determinations than I, and I'd like to avoid any appearance of a Perl 6 leader telling the Perl 5 folks what they should be doing.

I fully agree with masak++ that the Perl 5 story could be best improved by changing the name of Perl 6. But I also agree with masak that this is not at all likely to happen anytime soon, and I conceive that although a Perl 6 name change might be best for Perl 5 today, it might not be best for Perl in the long run.

So, I want to accept our current reality for what it is, and recognize that if we're really going to honor TMTOWTDI, and if there's going to be a Perl family of languages, then let's figure out how to name and market all of our children as something more than just "4", "5", and "6". Because I think that any community that can produce brilliantly creative names like "CPANTS", "Moose" (and "MooseX"), "Lingua::Romana::Perligata", "Ponie", "Rakudo", and "phasers" can surely come up with more creative and marketable names for its flagship products than simple sequences of small numbers.


[Update: I overlooked "Strawberry Perl" in the list of brilliantly creative names associated with Perl.]

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