CPAN and readline on windows

BrowserUk has asked for the wisdom of the Perl Monks concerning the following question:

Is there any (official) way to disable CPAN's use of readline?

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Re: CPAN and readline on windows by xdg (Monsignor) on Mar 25, 2009 at 10:57 UTC
Well, given that so much of CPAN.pm is still based on globals, you can do this: `perl -MCPAN -e "$CPAN::Suppress_readline=1; shell"` [download] Eventually, that should probably get moved to (yet another) configuration option. Please consider opening up an RT ticket about it if there isn't one already so we have it on the list of things to do. -xdg Code written by xdg and posted on PerlMonks is public domain. It is provided as is with no warranties, express or implied, of any kind. Posted code may not have been tested. Use of posted code is at your own risk.	[reply] [d/l]
Re^2: CPAN and readline on windows by BrowserUk (Patriarch) on Mar 25, 2009 at 16:55 UTC
Yes. I've added: `$Suppress_readline = 1;` [download] just after the `use vars:` where it is declared. The reason for asking if there was an official way of disabling it is because at the top of the `shell()` method, there is this line: `$Suppress_readline = ! -t STDIN unless defined $Suppress_readline;` [download] which implies that `$Suppress_readline` could somehow be defined prior to the test on STDIN. I couldn't find the mechanism whereby that might occur--barring your way of setting it on the command line--, but had there been some existing mechanism (maybe an environment variable or similar), I would prefer that to modifying the script directly. Examine what is said, not who speaks -- Silence betokens consent -- Love the truth but pardon error. "Science is about questioning the status quo. Questioning authority". In the absence of evidence, opinion is indistinguishable from prejudice. "Too many [] have been sedated by an oppressive environment of political correctness and risk aversion."	[reply] [d/l] [select]
Re^2: CPAN and readline on windows by BrowserUk (Patriarch) on Mar 25, 2009 at 18:05 UTC
Thinking about it, it probably makes more sense to set `$CPAN::Suppress_readline=1;` in CPAN.bat, rather than modifying CPAN.pm? Do you still want an RT ticket for that? Examine what is said, not who speaks -- Silence betokens consent -- Love the truth but pardon error. "Science is about questioning the status quo. Questioning authority". In the absence of evidence, opinion is indistinguishable from prejudice. "Too many [] have been sedated by an oppressive environment of political correctness and risk aversion."	[reply] [d/l]
Re^3: CPAN and readline on windows by xdg (Monsignor) on Mar 25, 2009 at 18:37 UTC
I've gone ahead and created it: Convert "$Suppress_readline" to a configuration option -xdg Code written by xdg and posted on PerlMonks is public domain. It is provided as is with no warranties, express or implied, of any kind. Posted code may not have been tested. Use of posted code is at your own risk.	[reply]
Re^4: CPAN and readline on windows by BrowserUk (Patriarch) on Mar 25, 2009 at 18:45 UTC
Re^5: CPAN and readline on windows by xdg (Monsignor) on Mar 25, 2009 at 19:08 UTC
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Re: CPAN and readline on windows by Narveson (Chaplain) on Mar 25, 2009 at 09:18 UTC
I'm terribly sorry, after BrowserUk has given so much help to so many, to see how little help we are giving him. While we're waiting for an answer, could someone help me understand the question? How does CPAN use readline, and why might BrowserUk wish to disable this?	[reply]
Re^2: CPAN and readline on windows by BrowserUk (Patriarch) on Mar 25, 2009 at 16:45 UTC
How does CPAN use readline, and why might BrowserUk wish to disable this? It is (apparently) used on other platforms to provide line editing, command line history etc. The reasons I want to disable it is because: it doesn't work on my system. With it enabled I can neither edit the current line as I am typing, nor retrieve previous lines--even from the current session. It effectively renders all input as write-only. Make a typo and your only option is to start again from scratch. it disables my shell's existing, perfectly functional command line editing and history facilities. Examine what is said, not who speaks -- Silence betokens consent -- Love the truth but pardon error. "Science is about questioning the status quo. Questioning authority". In the absence of evidence, opinion is indistinguishable from prejudice. "Too many [] have been sedated by an oppressive environment of political correctness and risk aversion."	[reply]
Re^2: CPAN and readline on windows by Corion (Patriarch) on Mar 25, 2009 at 09:33 UTC
Windows itself already provides functionality similar but different from what Readline provides. And of course, not everybody likes Emacs shortcuts like `^A` when the Windows default is to use the `HOME` key...	[reply] [d/l] [select]

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