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Re^7: Golf Challenge: FizzBuzz

by merlyn (Sage)
on Mar 03, 2007 at 19:43 UTC ( #603084=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re^6: Golf Challenge: FizzBuzz
in thread Golf Challenge: FizzBuzz

You're using rational arguments against irrational behavior. It doesn't matter. I'm telling you what the irrational behavior is. People who should know better disproportionally point at Golf and Obfu. That's the sad reality. I'm not saying that if all Golf and Obfu were eliminated, people would flock to Perl in the masses, but they're by far the leading candidates for discrediting Perl. It makes my job very hard.

And this is a bit ironic, since I invented the JAPH, so I've effectively created my own worst enemy here. {grin}

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Re^8: Golf Challenge: FizzBuzz
by blazar (Canon) on Mar 03, 2007 at 21:03 UTC
    I'm not saying that if all Golf and Obfu were eliminated, people would flock to Perl in the masses, but they're by far the leading candidates for discrediting Perl. It makes my job very hard.

    Well I guess there's no reliable, undebatable, objective data to either confirm or disprove your claim...

    And this is a bit ironic, since I invented the JAPH, so I've effectively created my own worst enemy here. {grin}

    ...so ++ at least for this last funny remark, if not for anything else! BTW: it's already a .sig of mine now...

    (This is a rewrite of the node as it was posted in the first place, that better conveys the intended sense. The version of the node prior to the rewrite is pasted hereafter, in <spoiler> tags.)


    And this is a bit ironic, since I invented the JAPH, so I've effectively created my own worst enemy here. {grin}

    Well I guess there's no reliable, undebatable, objective data to either confirm or disprove your claims (which I snipped in the quote above), so ++ at least for this last funny remark, if not for anything else! BTW: it's already a .sig of mine now...

    Update: thanks to a /msg from Limbic~Region I realized that my comment above may easily be misunderstood, as it happened to him: in fact it seems that I'm saying that there's no reliable, etc. data to prove that our merlyn is the JAPH inventor. But that's not what I meant, and indeed I know full well that he is universally recognized as the originator right. Apologies if I conveyed the impression that I I doubt he is because, again, I don't! What I wanted to say is that there's no reliable, etc. data to prove the (other) claims, which is why I used the plural there: in particular that "Golf and Obfu are by far the leading candidates for discrediting Perl." Shame on me for not quoting enough relevant context to begin with! I updated the above by inserting the part in parentheses, in the hope that it will make things clearer.

      What I wanted to say is that there's no reliable, etc. data to prove the (other) claims, which is why I used the plural there: in particular that "Golf and Obfu are by far the leading candidates for discrediting Perl."
      Agreed. As indicated in the "Which is the Most Popular Golfing Language?" section in this node, even back in 2009, code golf was more popular in Python than Perl. The reasons for Python's rise in popularity compared to Perl may make an interesting discussion, but I doubt code golf was a factor.

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