in reply to A wiki for Perl

As it turns out, the Everything engine already has support for wikis, and there are various wikis dotted around the monastery for groups to collaborate on keeping things running smoothly.

There is even a secret wiki on Perlmonks that is open to everyone. You can post anything you like there. But, as I said, it's a secret so if I told you where it was, I'd have to kill you. But seriously, it can be found by searching diligently.

Getting back to your initial question, though, what would you use the wiki for? Just because you build it, doesn't mean they will come. The only thing I can think that might benefit from the wiki approach is some kind of souped-up perldoc tutorial/reference, however, I'm cynical enough to believe that after an initial flurry of activity it would fade away and wither.

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Re: Re: A wiki for Perl (reason?)
by batkins (Chaplain) on Jun 24, 2003 at 01:51 UTC
    I built it and they didn't come.
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      But wikis are like webpages, or mailinglists (or restaurants, or grouse nests, or...). One either needs a dedicated following, or a high-traffic location.

      Like, perhaps, <looking around>, here?

      Also, I've seen it said (drat, can't find the nice page) that creating a wiki takes time. One is building a social artifact, rather than merely a technical one. So one creates a site, with some initial interesting content, and advertises it. And adds content, and advertises it. And encourages someone to add something. And advertises it. And so on. It's a cultivation exercise, a community bootstrap exercise, rather than a release-date--ship-it--done one.

      I built it and they didn't come.
      Maybe you should ask the maintainer of to add a link to your site?
Re: Re: A wiki for Perl (reason?)
by mnc (Beadle) on Jun 23, 2003 at 21:52 UTC

    Dotted wikis, hidden wiki. The public face of Perlmonks might itself be called a wiki. Certainly wiki-ish.

    So perhaps, the question is not "creating a wiki". But rather...

    Is there is yet more untapped Perlmonks wiki goodness which can be raise to public view for the enlightenment of the flock?

    As for whether they would come, good question. Two thoughts. They come to the other languages' sites. And they are already coming here.

    One might think of this as adding a less structured corner to Perlmonks, for the whatever assorted stuff doesn't fit neatly within existing strictures, er, sections.


Re^2: A wiki for Perl (reason?)
by Limbic~Region (Chancellor) on Sep 08, 2004 at 18:32 UTC
    Actually - the secret wiki in question isn't open to everyone. At least that's what a little birdie told me a long time ago. I trust him since I think he got the information on high authority. You can't read the wiki until you have reached a certain level and you can't write until you have reached an even higher level. If I told you which levels, I might have to go chop carrots instead of learning how to teleport.

    Cheers - L~R

      This is complete fud. There is no secret wiki. There is no secret wiki. There is no secret wiki.

      The accessible-to-anyone wiki is here (you must be logged on to edit it.)

      Again, There is no secret wiki. Really.

        Yeah - and there is no spoon either. I was unaware of the public wiki so thanks for the link. As for the secret wiki - the truth is out there!

        Cheers - L~R