AssFace has asked for the wisdom of the Perl Monks concerning the following question:

I have long used Windows and Linux as my operating systems of choice. My current laptop has died, or is in the process of dying and there are only so many times that I can revive it.
I am finally in a position where the shiny 15" PowerBook - the new AlBook over the TiBook - has made me decide to go ahead and give a Mac a shot.
I only ever use my laptop to 1) surf the web, 2) write e-mail, 3) code.
I code Perl and C at this point - and web stuff. The C isn't a problem, the web stuff isn't a problem obviously.

As of late, I have been spoiled by ActiveState's Komodo - the latest version of it is faster and the features it has have just endeared me to it. It has code collapsing and most importantly, a visual debugger where I can set break points and step through the code - watch variables, etc.

I assume that there are some Mac OS X lovers on here - is there anything for Mac OS X that will allow me the same ability for Perl? Ideally free, if not, ideally "cheap" (meaning under $100) and something I can download.
Hopefully my laptop will survive a few more minutes to get this posted... thanks!

There are some odd things afoot now, in the Villa Straylight.

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Re: Mac OS X question
by derby (Abbot) on Oct 07, 2003 at 13:08 UTC
    Maybe I'm too old school but vim supports folding (and I'm sure emacs does too) and perl's built in debugger does a fine job? All of these can easily be run within OS X terminal window.

    As a *Nix user, OS X is like buying a new pair of Levi's - sure they're still a bit too blue and stiff but once you've washed them a few times they feel great. But then again, Window's always felt like that new Easter suit my mom used to buy for me when I was a kid -- you know the one that came with a jacket, two pairs of slacks and a reversible vest. It looked nice but damn was it uncomfortable and wearing wool (at least in mid-atlantic US) during the spring was not fun.


      As a *Nix user, OS X is like buying a new pair of Levi's ...
      I use all three (*nix, OSX, Windows) and I think thats the best description I've heard yet :-)

      "Ex libris un peut de tout"
      Well, I honestly never used the debugger until I had the graphical interface to it in Komodo - so while there are obviously other ways to do it - like I said, I'm spoiled and like the graphical access to it (click on something and type which specific variable you want to watch and whatnot).

      When I was in college I loved the hard way around things, now that I'm actually making money off of things that I do and they are more than just fun projects, I'm really only concerned about what is the easiest way to get it done.

      I have long been anti-Mac for a variety of reasons - but there are many changes in Windows and Mac that are pushing me away from Win and towards Mac.

      Of course, I'm also contemplating just running Linux, but if I am going to try a Mac, this is as good a time as any.

      After looking around, I saw that there is a Carbonized version of Vim - so I will give that a shot if I go the Mac route - thanks for the tip.

      There are some odd things afoot now, in the Villa Straylight.
Re: Mac OS X question
by BUU (Prior) on Oct 07, 2003 at 04:21 UTC
    Why not just run the linux version of komodo? OSX is based on bsd, shouldn't there be a fair amount of compatability?
      Good point, and to be honest I don't know. I would have thought so, but then I have seen much ado made when various programs had been ported over from Linux and could now work on OS X, which makes me assume that it is non-trivial, or at least more than just installing it as if it were on Linux.

      There are some odd things afoot now, in the Villa Straylight.
      In case anyone does a search on this in the future, I looked around and found a post on a discussion board about Mozilla that was by one of the ActiveState programmers - he said that they had plans to port Komodo to Solaris and Mac OSX - the Solaris port is already out as far as I know, and he said they wanted to make sure the Mac one was a good one (looks).

      So it looks like it will be out eventually if that is something I wanted.
      And therefore it looks like I will be getting the Mac - a big change for me. I feel dirty, yet excited about the shiny case that should be more durable and hopefully have fewer future licensing issues than my current Windows laptop that is dying.

      There are some odd things afoot now, in the Villa Straylight.