in reply to perl certification

Is there any perl Certification available ?
Sure. You can get one for $50,000 from a well known Perl monk.

I can't speak for others, but I've done a lot of interviewing and recruiting over many years. What I've noticed is that just about everyone I've ever interviewed who has a certification, on further probing, has proved to know precious little about what they were certified for! Why is this? I'm not sure, but from the certification questions I've seen asked at Perl Monks, I suspect a common reason for seeking certification is that the certification seeker has appalling Perl and general programming skills and accordingly will never get a job if interviewed by a technical interviewer. Their best job-seeking strategy, therefore, is to seek a position interviewed by non-technical HR or managerial types, wear a suit, and wave a certification under their (clueless) noses. That's not always the case though, sometimes folks are forced to attend a certification course by their employer. One example that springs to mind here is of a superb C++ developer at work who holds a Java certification! Apparently, his previous employer got sucked in and paid big bucks to send him on a Java certification course. I relentlessly tease him about this Java certification because he knows nothing of Java, just attended the course and never used it again. So, over many years of interviewing, holding a certification has actually become a negative factor for me.

See also Certifications are dumb. Update: See also New Perl Certification Course.

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Re^2: perl certification
by Anonymous Monk on Jul 23, 2013 at 02:25 UTC
    This reminds me of the discussion on how valuable a college degree really is. The guy who knows what he does by pure experience vs. the new college grad in a similar field that knows nothing, but has a college degree. What I get from others who posted, is that certifications are looked down upon by some. lets say we are interviewing 2 guys. Both have the same degree, but only one decided to go a step further and get a few certifications. Or 2 guys, no degree, but one has certs. And yes, a technical recruiter is at hand. How can these certifications possibly be a negative thing?
      Because, as eyepopslikeamosquito pointed out, so many of those who hold certifications are not good at what they are certified for.

      Certifications are only a positive if the guy/gal holding it can demonstrate good working knowledge on and beyond the subject of the certification. But if they can do that, they shouldn't need the certification in the first place.


        Even if the guy that has the cert can't fully apply what he has learned, he still has gotten his feet wet in the language. So, to me this shows initiative. Everyone is so hung on experience. I'm guessing you guys haven't worked with the guy that has so much experience, but is just stuck in his not so great ways. In this situation I would rather mold the newbie vs getting the experienced guy who really isn't interested in hearing what you have to teach them. I still say any cert can't be a negative thing. I personally don't have any certs but know guys who do. Some of these certs are not easy to get. You don't just pay money and get the cert. Like I said before, if my choices are two guys with same degree, but one has a cert or two, I definitely wouldn't look down or negatively at the guy who obtained the certs.
        I understand that they shouldn't need the certification if they have a good understanding of the language. My point is, how can a cert be viewed as a bad thing for someone with the knowledge to back it up? To me, it shows motivation and that the guy spent time doing something that others might not want to do. Why get a college degree if I already have equivalent experience in whatever field? Wouldn't that be the same concept? This thread is about to get entertaining:) -Scott