in reply to Re: Perlmonks SmartPhone App
in thread Perlmonks SmartPhone App

This is not an idea made out of selfishness, this was an idea that would help this website, which I am a huge fan of, in more ways then one.

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Re^3: Perlmonks SmartPhone App
by Tanktalus (Canon) on Jul 15, 2011 at 21:42 UTC


    What do you think volunteers do here that is "out of selfishness"? Just going by one example, me, let's see what my contributions have been (not counting the stuff I get XP for).

    You see that "Reputation: -12 (+0/-12)" that shows up after you've voted, or on your own nodes? I did that - it was something I thought would improve the site, I got in there, made a patch, got it tested out for a while, it was rejected, improvements suggested, and finally repatched and applied. I felt that it would be an improvement, and drove it through completion. If I had waited for others to do it, it might not be done yet.

    I found Newest Nodes to be difficult on my eyes (the goggles, they did nothing). So, again, I did something about it (you can use it, too, I won't complain).

    Both of those examples had to run through the gods here, so may not be directly comparable, though if your wanted app required more ways to display nodes, it would definitely be more work, and you'd need the gods' approval on any code changes that you would make. Note the highlight. If it's your itch, like the above changes were my itch, you do something about it.

    I've also contributed to perlmonks off-site: Chatterbox Addicts not-so-anonymous/Tanktalus' CB Stats relocated (temporary, I hope), which is coded completely independently of the gods (their only input is that I'm following site policy, which I think I've bent over backwards to accommodate, thus everyone, or at least most everyone, is happy), and last hour of cb is back, which required tye's intervention only to modify the owner of last hour of cb so I could update it, but the code that does all the real work is off-site, thus the gods don't concern themselves with my implementation (only my output).

    The key here is not that I did these things. It is that I wanted them done, therefore I did them.

    If you want a smartphone app, go ahead and write one. I remain unconvinced that there would be any money in it, but, then again, I'm too cheap to get a smartphone (they're cool toys, but I can't justify the expense). And, though I'm unconvinced, I'm not going to try to stop you or discourage you from doing it. Let us know when it's finished!

      "I came up with the idea (as many others have before me) and thought it may benefit the site. It is said on the Perl Monks Discussion page that I can "offer ideas on how the site could be improved" so that's what I did."

      I said this exact same thing before and I'll say it again. I'm just voicing an idea that I believed was good. I did not say I was able to do it, though if I could I would, but this was just an idea.
Re^3: Perlmonks SmartPhone App
by JavaFan (Canon) on Jul 15, 2011 at 20:17 UTC
    this was an idea that would help this website
    You got any data to back up that statement? Do you have any examples of sites that are similar to Perlmonks that were "helped" by the creation of an iPhone app? If so, in which way were they "helped"?
      Actually I did give data to back up my statement in my initial post (the cash part). You can find this info here. If you want any more "data" I can find it for you.
        That $15,000 is assuming that there are ads in, I'm guessing. If you have a site which is read by thousands of readers, I'd believe that. But a Perlmonks app is going to be a niche item, and I'll be willing to bet that ad clickthrough is a whole lot lower for the target niche.

        Still, I commend you for the idea, and wish you the best with it. You will get more traction if you start something and put it up on Github, even if version 0.1 is terrible. At the moment, it reminds me of the biz dev guy who comes in with the greatest idea ever, all you need to do is code it up. If you had something invested personally, there'd be more interest, I think.