I hear this point made often, and it always seems problematic to me, unless you're looking at a (very) long-term plan.
If we're going to put our eggs in more than one basket, the first thing we need to do is find more baskets. While the technology to create permanent human colonies in space is near at hand, the technology to create independent space colonies isn't anywhere close. If a colony doesn't have significant travel, mining, and manufacturing facilities, plus the ability to sustain itself for at least a few hundred years, and a very respectable gene pool to boot, it's not worth counting as a basket. If the earth goes down, the big metal doughnuts out there will probably be empty shortly thereafter.
Living in a sustainable way on another planet is a better plan, but it isn't going to be any easier. We're basically talking about terraforming Mars, or leaving the solar system. Anything like a moon base is going to have the same critical problem as space stations: they won't survive without an elaborate earth-based support system. Sure, the moon-men could potentially travel back and repopulate an empty earth... but if that's the plan, we'd probably be better off keeping some remote, self-sustaining colony here, and saving them the trip.
I do think there's reason for optimism about space, in part because nothing gets done without at least a modicum of optimism. For the foreseeable future, though, count me as a pro-science not-very-hippyish type who thinks taking care of things down here is the only real option for survival. We're surrounded by lots and lots of nothing, very occasionally punctuated by an extraordinarily hostile something.
By the way, I voted for "reduce the cost of putting things in space". In my opinion, the faster space technology gets out of the hands of cathedral-builders (to whom we owe a lot), and into the hands of entrepreneurs, corporations, hobbyists, hotel chains, adventurers, and crack-pots, the faster we'll start to figure out how to really get things done up there. Then (the free-market faithful say) we'll get all the other things on the list done better and more easily.
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Hear, hear. I too have recidivist "hippy" tendencies but I have always been pro-science as well. | [reply] |
And for those anti-science hippy¹ types who like to say "we shouldn't colonize the Moon, Mars, etc., until we've learned to take care of our own planet"
I'm neither a hippy type nor anti-science. Yet I think it
is the misuse of science that has gotten us in the
mess that we are in. (Please note the word
"misuse" there)
Science has been trying to tell us for years (long
before Mr Gore got on the bandwagon) that we are drowning
in our own garbage. Yet the various policy makers not to
mention people in general make bad decisions with regard
to the issues that affect the environment we live in.
So when I make the statement we gotta learn to keep
our own environment clean I make the analogy to raising
children a bit differently than you do. I teach my
offspring that when you travel through "nature",
for lack of better way of putting it, you leave nothing
behind other than your footsteps. Likewise good ecology
starts at home. My offspring have been taught that leaving
garbage in their rooms is a bad idea and that garbage
needs to be dealt with appropriately.
When I was growing up and visited my cousins in Maine we
used to go to springs that were all over the place in
the woods to drink from when we were thirsty. In recent
years I'm hearing you can't do that any more because the
groundwater has become so contaminated by industrial
pollutants that travel for many miles airborne and end up
in Maine. That saddens me.
My kids think I'm nuts (at 28 and 17 I'm having trouble
calling them kids any more) but we have compost heaps
behind our house out in the woods. The don't think I'm
so nuts when I use that compost to enrich the soil of our
flower beds (sometimes used to grow tomatoes and peppers
instead) in the spring before I plant.
I was horrified to see a news report a few weeks ago
about the cleanup that has to be done on the Long Island
Expressway constantly because folks just throw their
coffee cups, McDonald's bags, etc. out their car windows
as they drive to work. I thought we as a society outgrew
that but I can see I was deceiving myself. Then I started
noticing they do the same thing on the highways near
where I live.
I say all that to say this: At least here in the
USA people tend to be slobs. I'd hate to export that to
some pristine environment out in space. Instead of living
on one planet where the water is fouled, the air is
fouled and we don't know how to manage our waste products
we'd have two or more. That thought bothers me.
In my mind there are plenty of warning signs out there
that we are screwing this planet up bad. From the fact that
there are more cancers being seen to the fact that every
other child I know of seems to have issues with allergies.
Not to mention the fact that you can't go outside anymore
without breathing in pollutants. (I sneeze uncontrollably
when I first step off the train in NYC on every visit!)
Peter L. Berghold -- Unix Professional
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looks like we will play the 'ALIENS' ;-) | [reply] |
or maybe tie up large amounts of resources trying to access distant cosmic rocks instead of deploying them to tackle 'real world' (ie our world) problems!!
excuse my sarcasm too ;+) | [reply] |