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Encoding Issue
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by choroba
on Apr 13, 2021 at 11:23
    I noticed an encoding issue in the post Re^4: Useless use of string in return statement. When I dislpayed it for the first time, it showed a double encoded UTF-8 character:
    It’s one

    After I voted for the node, though, the encoding issue was gone:

    Itís one 

    I made screenshots of both the versions.

    Update: I'm using Firefox 78.9.0esr on Linux.

    map{substr$_->[0],$_->[1]||0,1}[\*||{},3],[[]],[ref qr-1,-,-1],[{}],[sub{}^*ARGV,3]
Internal problem in Montly/Weekly Best
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by Discipulus
on Apr 12, 2021 at 04:32
    hello pmdevs

    I noticed the following error in nodelets about Montly/Weekly Best, maybe there is some work in progress?

    Monthly Best Internal problem occurred in get_picked_nodes called with 10 bind variables when 9 are needed Weekly Best Internal problem occurred in get_picked_nodes called with 10 bind variables when 9 are needed


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Display create date on Selected Best Nodes
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by afoken
on Apr 10, 2021 at 07:15

    Whenever I browse Selected Best Nodes, I notice that I miss the create date that is included in "Super Search" results, "Nodes You Wrote", etc. Given that Selected Best Nodes may return postings that may be two decades old, the create date gives some context for the postings.

    So I propose to add the create date to Selected Best Nodes.


    Today I will gladly share my knowledge and experience, for there are no sweeter words than "I told you so". ;-)
The Categorized Questions and Answers section has been decommissioned
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by jdporter
on Apr 09, 2021 at 15:47

    Effective today, the section of PerlMonks known as "Categorized Questions and Answers" is no longer in service. The section page is a tombstone. It is no longer possible to post Categorized Questions or Answers. It is also not possible to search such posts via Super Search. It wouldn't be useful anyway, because all of the posts which were Categorized Questions have been converted into SOPW posts. Likewise, all posts which were Categorized Answers have been converted into replies to those SOPW posts. In each case, the name of the CatQA 'section' in which the Question was placed has been added to the SOPW post as a keyword.

    The intent of the CatQA section will, going forward, be fulfilled by a new system, whereby "good" questions (in SOPW) and their "best" answers will be given a special flag, as well as relevant keywords.

    Some documentation and linkage changes remain to be made. If you see any, feel free to sent a msg to SiteDocClan, pmdev, or gods, depending.

    For more information on this change, see prior discussion: RFC: Better Best Answers Gets Real

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Helper script to format code and output to perlmonks markup
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by LanX
on Apr 04, 2021 at 17:03

    It's really tedious to need to correct code and example output after spotting a flaw.

    That's why I just hacked to automatically wrap code-tags around my combined source-file and output, so I just need one copy and paste.

    Just put it into the same directory like your other scripts.

    Activate it just with do "./" inside your source file.

    It requires a __DATA__ at the end of your source code and will warn you otherwise

    NB: The do; is omitted as is __DATA__ if it's the last line.

    use v5.12; use warnings; do './'; say for <DATA> __DATA__ 1 2 3

    <code> use v5.12; use warnings; say for <DATA> __DATA__ 1 2 3 </code> OUTPUT: <blockquote><i><code> 1 2 3 </code></i></blockquote>

    which renders as

    use v5.12; use warnings; say for <DATA> __DATA__ 1 2 3
    1 2 3

    The code is pretty self explanatory, you can adjust it to your needs

    UPDATE: fixed localization of non-buffering

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PerlMonks main page: garbled character encoding
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by kikuchiyo
on Mar 22, 2021 at 08:24

    When I load the main page, there is a character encoding issue: Image

    Interestingly, it appears normal when I open the link or when I log in.

    Firefox also displays this warning on the development tools panel: "The character encoding of the HTML document was not declared. The document will render with garbled text in some browser configurations if the document contains characters from outside the US-ASCII range. The character encoding of the page must be declared in the document or in the transfer protocol."

Proposal: Truncating trailing '(update)' from node-titles in replies
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by LanX
on Mar 12, 2021 at 16:22

    I'd like to propose to truncate any trailing s/\(\s*update.*?\)\s*$//i from node-titles in replies.


    Many, me included, flag important updates to their posts by adding an (updated?) to their titles, which is fine.

    But this becomes nonsensical when replies are also named (updated) because it's inherited.

    I could provide a patch, now that I've identified the add_re_to_title-code responsible for the Re^n: -parts in the titles.


    ?node_id=3989;HIT=%28update (click search)


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Whitespace after "Re*:" colon sometimes disappearing
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by LanX
on Mar 12, 2021 at 15:14
node 11112212 displayed as empty but its not empty
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by Anonymous Monk
on Mar 01, 2021 at 22:29
Necroposting Considered Beneficial
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by eyepopslikeamosquito
on Feb 24, 2021 at 23:43
Anonymous Edit
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by pryrt
on Feb 23, 2021 at 14:49
    Re: Challenge: Ricochet Robots was an anonymous post that was recently edited (emptied) with no janitation history. But Anonymous Monk cannot edit his own posts. After some back and forth in the CB, the best guess is that the post ran afoul of anti-spam AM-posts-with-links auto-cleaning. Which is fine... but it would be nice to be sure.

    More importantly than this specific instance: should there be some sort of indication on such posts, whether in the janitation history or in the body of the emptied post, to indicate that it was auto-cleaned for potential spam? This would give people a chance to weigh in with a consideration-to-edit/restore: "no, I saw the content and followed the link before it was purged: it was a link to a A* algorithm implementation of this problem in another language, which doesn't seem like spam given the conversation". (It's obviously been fixed in this case, but I'm using my reaction to this case to explain the general idea)

Anonymous Identifier
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by pryrt
on Feb 23, 2021 at 14:32
    Recently, the anonymous account is mostly one infamous user, one detractor who seems to think that every anonymous post (other than his) are by that infamous, and an increasingly-rare useful post.

    I understand the desire for an anonymous account -- it lowers the barrier of entry for one-off questions, and it probably helps with GPDR.

    But often, especially in the last year or so, it seems to me to be more trouble than it is worth. It allows infamous monks to hide behind a cloak that sometimes (but not always) masks who they are and how dangerous their "advice" is. But it also allows angry monks to carry out vendettas against the infamous monks any time there's a non-zero probability that an anonymous post might be from that infamous monk. And, on those rare occasions when the AM isn't one of those two, it makes it hard to follow questions, "no, I'm not that AM, I am a different one, the one from id://...."

    Most forums I've visited don't allow any anonymous posts. Do the negatives here outweigh the positives? And if TPTB don't want to disable AM, could we at least add a non-identifying identifier to AM posts?

    Something I've thought of before, I finally suggested in CB after today's anonymous-edit, and am now reiterating here: I would suggest a one-way hash on the IP address -- so it wouldn't tell us who or where the person is, but it would say "this is likely the same AM as from that other post". For the useful AM conversation, it would help other readers follow which AM said what; and for the infamous and his detractor(s), it would make it easier to confirm or deny whether it is likely the same monk or not. Both seem like "wins" to me. I understand that IP addresses can change or be behind big corporate blocks, so it's not a foolproof identifier in either direction (same IP might feasibly be used by good AM and bad AM, or a single AM's IP might change between posts) ... but it might help some. As long as the particular hash is not also applied to logged-in posts, I wouldn't think it would run afoul of GPDR (but, IANAL, so take it for what it's not worth).

    Anyway, just an idea I've had, and since there was some support in CB, I finally decided to suggest it officially.

Preview for Post Editing
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by kcott
on Feb 20, 2021 at 09:26
New posts added earlier in posted list
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by kcott
on Jan 22, 2021 at 11:01

    I was just about to post a new SoPW item and noted that I needed to scroll through lots of old posts. On commenting on that here (i.e. this PM post), I sill needed to wade through many posts to get to "Post new ...".

    My suggestion is that new SoPW, and all other new PM posts, are presented at the top of the list.

    Obviously, having been here for over a decade, I'm quite familar with the status quo. Those, who are newer to the monastery, may well get disoriented negotiating the cloisters: let's make it easier for them.

    Update: Rewrote title (before any respones) to make intent clearer.

    — Ken

Random Nodes are prohibited
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by Bod
on Jan 02, 2021 at 15:03

    When I use the Random Node feature, more often than not I arrive at a node which I don't have privileges to view. Whilst this is not a big issue, I suspect it comes from people in pmdev having access to all these prohibited nodes and not seeing the issue.

    Either I'm rather unlucky with the random nodes I get served or there are a lot of prohibited nodes in the Monastery.

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