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Re^6: regex return true instead of false (precedence)

by AnomalousMonk (Archbishop)
on Aug 27, 2019 at 20:11 UTC ( [id://11105136]=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re^5: regex return true instead of false (precedence)
in thread regex return true instead of false

if( $args !~ / (*FAIL) | \-rs(\s+)(\S+) # | \-? (\s+)(\S+) | \-P (\s+)(\S+) | \-p (\s+)(\S+) /x ){ ... }

I don't understand the purpose of the  (*FAIL) operator (see Special Backtracking Control Verbs in perlre in Perl versions 5.10+ (update: see also Backtracking control verbs in perlretut - but that's not actually as extensive as the discussion in perlre)) in the quoted regex. At any position in the  | alternation,  (*FAIL) will simply force the RE to try the next alternation; if it's at the last position, all the preceding pattern matches would have failed and the alternation would fail anyway without (*FAIL).

c:\@Work\Perl\monks>perl -wMstrict -le "use 5.010; ;; for my $s (qw(XXX ppp)) { print qq{for '$s' string}; if ($s !~ m{ (*F) | p | q }xms) { print ' with (*F): no match, !~ +true' } if ($s !~ m{ Z | p | q }xms) { print ' with Z: no match, !~ +true' } if ($s !~ m{ p | q }xms) { print ' no (*F): no match, !~ +true' } print ' -------'; } " for 'XXX' string with (*F): no match, !~ true with Z: no match, !~ true no (*F): no match, !~ true ------- for 'ppp' string -------
Note that for all these variations, for string 'XXX' there is never a match (!~ is always true); string 'ppp' always matches (!~ always false).

... not equivalently, because there are 8 capturing groups instead of 2 ...

If you're using  (*FAIL) you must be using Perl version 5.10+, so you also have the  (?|pattern) "branch reset" operator (see Extended Patterns in perlre). This allows you to go back to having two capture groups again!

Update: Changed example code slightly to better reflect discussion.


Give a man a fish:  <%-{-{-{-<

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Re^7: regex return true instead of false (precedence)
by rsFalse (Chaplain) on Aug 27, 2019 at 23:08 UTC
    "I don't understand the purpose of the (*FAIL) operator" -- AnomalousMonk.

    It has the same purpose as zero in separated regex example. It allows '||' or '|' be written before first conditional. And then all conditionals have the same line-format. For me it is more readable :)

    It is similar to:
    if( 0 ){ ; } elsif( condition_1 ){ ... } elsif( condition_2 ){ ... } elsif( condition_3 ){ ... }
    ...which is sometimes a bit more readable. Also then I can easily change the sequence of conditions by only swapping lines (including the line with the first condition).

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