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Re^12: Ovid's take on the renaming of "Perl6"

by Anonymous Monk
on Sep 02, 2019 at 20:22 UTC ( #11105472=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

in reply to Re^11: Ovid's take on the renaming of "Perl6"
in thread Ovid's take on the renaming of "Perl6"

And FTR I still disagree, strongly, that Perl 6 hurt Perl 5 particularly or in the grand scheme. Perl 5 was circling the drain *beforehand*. That was the entire genesis.

At the time it seemed like we were being sold a new car just to fix a flat tire. I'm not faulting a language designer for preferring to design languages than to maintain and evolve them. Imagine if all the energy that went into apocalyptic criticism of Perl 5 was instead a rewrite (or mere tweaks) of mod_perl and a few more core modules so it could meet the competitive challenges.
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Re^13: Ovid's take on the renaming of "Perl6"
by Your Mother (Bishop) on Sep 02, 2019 at 21:26 UTC

    I slightly agree, again. The schism about backcompt, features, core clean-up, had made Perl 5 progress difficult, social as much as technical, and Perl 6 seemed like a natural and well-timed path out of that; then. mod_perl was unsuitable, untenable as a tool to keep Perl on top of the web. It needed a complete rewrite and rethink. Something like WSGI and supporting app servers. That was *not* forthcoming. No one with the skills stepped up. I certainly didnít have the chops to do so or even understand what was needed at the time. A large part of the community put its nose in the air about stooping so low when we already had mod_perl, a thing of grace and power in its class. Nothing else would have helped send PHP where it belongs. Thank goodness for Miyagawa. No, wait, just thank Miyagawa! :P

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