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Perl deleted my desktop

by harangzsolt33 (Friar)
on Nov 03, 2019 at 20:56 UTC ( #11108280=perlmeditation: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

I was working on a perl script that changes Linux text files to DOS format, and I somehow accidentally changed all txt html and pl files to zero bytes long on my desktop where I had several perl scripts, and passwords.txt and address_book.txt and various important text and html files which are now gone! At first I couldn’t believe my eyes. Has something like this ever happened to any of you? I hope I have a backup somewhere, but all my recent changes are lost. This is the first time I really screwed myself with perl programming. :( I still cant believe it. I dont even have the password to perlmonks.

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Re: Perl deleted my desktop
by choroba (Archbishop) on Nov 03, 2019 at 21:05 UTC
    Accept my condolences.

    Keep backups of everything important. All development should take place in a version control system, and you should run any script on testing data first.

    It might sound pedantic and tedious, but after accidents like yours, it all starts to make sense.

    Also, don't blame Perl. It was you who deleted the desktop, not Perl ;-)

    I've deleted lots of photographs, videos, and whole directories of files accidentally. Some of them were lost forever, some of them were recovered from backup copies. When touching anything of importance, I always switch the mode "production environment" on.

    map{substr$_->[0],$_->[1]||0,1}[\*||{},3],[[]],[ref qr-1,-,-1],[{}],[sub{}^*ARGV,3]
      Yes, I know... it was I. And I’ve learned my lesson. Sigh.
Re: Perl deleted my desktop
by Your Mother (Bishop) on Nov 03, 2019 at 21:53 UTC

    I deleted about 6,000 personal photos—at a time in my life when I was trying to be a more serious photographer—once in a similar move a little more than 15 years ago. I didn’t cry or break down. I amortized it over the rest of my life so I’m just a little bit sadder every day than I otherwise would have been. :P It was just “power use” of Unix that time. Perl was not in on the conspiracy for me to be stupid. I got a LOT more serious about never using a root account and ensuring regular old permissions for myself and doing things like–

    moo@cow[552]~>alias | ack 'cp|mv|rm' cp cp -i mv mv -i rm rm -i

    Oh! Say, I did actually hose several thousand Amazon.com customers with Perl. Haven’t thought about that in many years. The clue rests in the single most scrub hacker mistake I ever made: s/>>/>/;

    The good news there is I spent approximately 30 hours with nearly no sleep after that learning to query the Oracle DB directly to forensically recover from context a good amount of what was lost.

Re: Perl deleted my desktop
by davido (Cardinal) on Nov 04, 2019 at 00:32 UTC

    Keeping a single copy of anything, with no backups, is only one step away from it being deleted and lost forever. Automations are supposed to do a lot of work with minimal effort. Working on a filesystem automation in proximity to files you care about and have no backups for is high risk behavior regardless of what language you used. Unless Perl itself malfunctioned, it did nothing it wasn't asked to do.

    There are design choices in many languages that are pessimal for safety though; SQL has unguarded DELETE that can wipe out a table just by omitting a WHILE. Perl has > for clobber mode, and < for input mode, a syntactic throwback to shell scripting that has probably made it way too easy for people to mistakenly clobber files.


    Dave

Re: Perl deleted my desktop
by marto (Archbishop) on Nov 04, 2019 at 08:01 UTC

    You mean you deleted the files on your desktop. Your title reminds me of My computer broked down after perl install. Also, passwords.txt, plain text? No backups? What year is this?. Why you left anything important on your desktop is beyond me, then again, we briefly touched on your unconventional workflow previously.

    Update: See PhotoRec, there are Linux distros (bootable from removable media) which have lots of digital forensics and file recovery tools. N.B. for best results stop using the computer impacted immediately, to maximise recovery efforts, stop writing to disk...

Re: Perl deleted my desktop
by Eily (Monsignor) on Nov 04, 2019 at 10:44 UTC

    I did something similar. I had some code with special characters in it (accented chars, mostly) which would lead to problems with some of our tools. I got bored with it and used a perl script to remove every non ascii char from the code. No problem there.

    A colleague had the same issue on a different branch, so I told him I would do the same operation again. Except this time I called the script on the root directory of my drive rather than the code folder. Turns out there are a lot of non ascii characters in zipped files, executable files, and other non plain text files :P (It was inconvenient, but all important files were local copies of files backed up somewhere though, so I didn't lose anything)

Re: Perl deleted my desktop
by jcb (Priest) on Nov 04, 2019 at 01:12 UTC

    I have never really had much use for a "desktop" and this is one of the reasons. I always put each "project" in its own directory, mostly to reduce clutter, but also to limit risk to some extent. Avoiding these kinds of mistakes is one reason that I almost never actually replace files in my scripts, preferring to instead write a new output file under another name or in another directory.

    While we are talking about disasters, I once tried to make the boot scripts more efficient by picking out the "restart needed" bit from the return code of fsck instead of always needing a restart after checking the root filesystem. Guess what? The shell did not really support extracting a bit from the return code and, the next time fsck changed the root filesystem, startup continued instead of stopping for a restart. Fortunately, I killed the power very quickly, but a few files were destroyed. I had to rewrite /etc/fstab from memory, which led to more fun when I forgot the swap partition. Got all the way into X and managed to start gcc before actually running out of memory. Impressive for a machine with only 64MiB RAM.

Re: Perl deleted my desktop
by Your Mother (Bishop) on Nov 12, 2019 at 06:26 UTC
Re: I deleted my desktop
by Anonymous Monk on Nov 03, 2019 at 23:39 UTC

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