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Re^12: Making Perl Monks a better place for newbies (and others)

by jdporter (Canon)
on Feb 03, 2020 at 22:47 UTC ( #11112345=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re^11: Making Perl Monks a better place for newbies (and others)
in thread Making Perl Monks a better place for newbies (and others)

So why haven't you written it yet?

I'm serious. If someone wrote a replacement site which managed to capture the nuances of policy we have here -- since we believe it's what has, more than anything else, made PerlMonks successful -- then we could, without a whole lot of effort, port the database of posts, etc. to the new platform. Or we could do something reasonable, like "shadow" them. Anything's possible. But before that can happen, someone needs to implement PerlMonks 2.0.

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Re^13: Making Perl Monks a better place for newbies (and others)
by Your Mother (Bishop) on Feb 04, 2020 at 06:55 UTC

    The initial reason, from years back, is I assumed it would be rejected outright; and itís just as well, I would have chosen Catalyst and that probably would have been a suboptimal choice these 13ish years later. I went as far as getting a related domain name to do exactly what you suggest, shadow the site as an experiment, and setting up some basics and an outline of reverse engineering. The current reasons include an absolute dearth of remotely circular tuits + analysis paralysis + fear of taking on responsibility I couldnít handle + distaste for the social aspects of arguing about anything + Iíd either be ďoutingĒ myself or having to jump through hoops to have a pseudonymous github presence (which I also went as far as setting up). Garnish with Iíve always liked the site okay as is and with tobyinkís skin I like it better and with the ajax voting I put together recently I donít have any serious friction points.

    If it ever in these threads sounded like I was criticizing you or any other active pmdev, I should clarify the exact opposite is true. I am grateful you take it on and deal with issues. The site is fantastic as an entity and while there are several things that go into that itís only possible because of you and the others who maintain the code.

      Thank you. And also I didn't mean just you; I mean everyone who's ever wondered why PerlMonks is still so second millenium.

      I reckon we are the only monastery ever to have a dungeon stuffed with 16,000 zombies.

        Because it is so much work! It's such a fun site to try and replicate and hack on though. I gave it a try also to kinda see what something might look like.

        My feeble attempt: http://scripting.ninja. It uses Mojolicious, Clarity UI, and Angular. Maybe bootstrap also, can't remember. It's pretty eye opening to see how much effort went into the current site!

Re^13: Making Perl Monks a better place for newbies (and others)
by LanX (Archbishop) on Feb 04, 2020 at 11:25 UTC
    Could you provide pmdevs with a dev version of PM to play with?

    From my understanding it means basically mirroring the DB after purging private data.

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    > managed to capture the nuances of policy we have here

    I think there are more nuances which might need to be "re-implemented" too.

    Like nodelets, tickers, user settings, ...

    Cheers Rolf
    (addicted to the Perl Programming Language :)
    Wikisyntax for the Monastery FootballPerl is like chess, only without the dice

      Like nodelets, tickers, user settings, ...

      Yes, all that; but of course it would be an opportunity to do things "better".

      I'm still hoping someone will take up the challenge. :-)

        I'm wondering why a mobile version of PerlMonks is a thing.

        It was more of an issue some years ago, but it seems fine. Looks and functions the same on a modern phone as on a computer.

        The newline thing is also the same, though slightly less of a nuisance on a computer.

        I might be interested if There seemed a real need, but actually, when I happen across a mobile version of a website, I switch to the full version. It usually looks and functions better on a mobile device than the somewhat crippled mobile version.

        Tom
Re^13: Making Perl Monks a better place for newbies (and others)
by PerlGuy(Tom) (Acolyte) on Feb 05, 2020 at 18:18 UTC
    I've certainly written forum programs that are capable of replacing the newline character in received form input with an html equivalent rather than just stripping it out, so have thousands of other forums everywhere across the internet.

    I don't know why anyone would consider having their "return" replaced with space or nothing, a desirable feature.

    I don't think an entire forum platform replacement is necessary just to make a very minor modification to one line of code.

    Tom

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