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Re^8: Windows / Linux puzzler

by ikegami (Patriarch)
on Mar 27, 2020 at 01:46 UTC ( [id://11114695]=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re^7: Windows / Linux puzzler
in thread Windows / Linux puzzler

Nope, that doesn't make differences go away, seeing as I was using SP 5.30.2 downloaded and installed less than a week ago. That's newer than 5.26, yet the output was different that the perl built gcc on Unbuntu on WSL on the same machine. The SP build does have -D__USE_MINGW_ANSI_STDIO

Strawberry Perl 5.30.2 on Windows:

>perl -e"CORE::say $^X" C:\progs\sp5302x64\perl\bin\perl.exe >perl -v | find "This is" This is perl 5, version 30, subversion 2 (v5.30.2) built for MSWin32-x +64-multi-thread >perl -V:nvsize nvsize='8'; >perl -V:ccflags ccflags=' -s -O2 -DWIN32 -DWIN64 -DCONSERVATIVE -D__USE_MINGW_ANSI_STD +IO -DPERL_TEXTMODE_SCRIPTS -DPERL_IMPLICIT_CONTEXT -DPERL_IMPLICIT_SY +S -DUSE_PERLIO -fwrapv -fno-strict-aliasing -mms-bitfields'; >perl -e"CORE::say sprintf '%.20g', 0.1" 0.10000000000000000555

Self-built Perl 5.30.2 on Ubuntu 18.04 LTS on WSL on Windows:

$ uname -a Linux tribble 4.4.0-18362-Microsoft #476-Microsoft Fri Nov 01 16:53:00 + PST 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux $ perl -v | grep 'This is' This is perl 5, version 30, subversion 2 (v5.30.2) built for x86_64-li +nux-thread-multi $ perl -V:nvsize nvsize='8'; $ perl -e'CORE::say sprintf "%.20g", 0.1' 0.10000000000000001

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Re^9: Windows / Linux puzzler
by syphilis (Archbishop) on Mar 27, 2020 at 07:11 UTC
    Interesting - thanks for persisting.

    When I revert to an older Strawberry Perl that wasn't built with -D__USE_MINGW_ANSI_STDIO (5.24.1 / MSWin32-x64-multi-thread) I get the same as on Ubuntu:
    C:\_64\strawberry5.24.1>perl -e"CORE::say sprintf '%.20g', 0.1" 0.10000000000000001 C:\_64\strawberry5.24.1>
    I don't think that there's a lot of significance in the output of '%.20g' formatting of doubles.
    As you're probably aware, both 0.10000000000000001 and 0.10000000000000000555 will assign to the same double anyway.
    Both a 20-decimal-digit value, and that same value rounded to 17 decimal digits, will assign to the same double (unless something is buggy).

    If the intention of "%.20g" formatting of 0.1 is to get the closest 20-decimal digit approximation to the double 0.1, then the latter is correct, and the former (ie the value consistently provided by Ubuntu) is incorrect:
    C:\>perl -MMath::MPFR=":mpfr" -le "$x=Math::MPFR->new('0.1'); $base=10 +; $digits=20; Rmpfr_out_str($x, $base, $digits, MPFR_RNDN);" 1.0000000000000000555e-1 C:\>
    Perhaps Linux has some catching up to do.
    Even VC++ 2017 and later are "getting it right". On perl-5.30.0, MSWin32-x64-multi-thread, built with VC++ 2019:
    C:\>perl -e"CORE::say sprintf '%.20g', 0.1" 0.10000000000000000555 C:\>
    I'm not exactly sure when VC++ started "getting it right". I know it was some time after VC++ 2010.

    Cheers,
    Rob

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