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Re^2: How to avoid decoding string to utf-8.

by Anonymous Monk
on Oct 11, 2020 at 15:26 UTC ( #11122705=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re: How to avoid decoding string to utf-8.
in thread How to avoid decoding string to utf-8.

Hi all, Thank you for the reply.
please note that this seems case of mixed encoding.
I have below two string,

1. #This one doesn't need any extra processing 2. àáâä #This one needs to decode .i.e decode('utf-8',$str) which + gives correct result as
Problem here is, decode works fine for me with second string but with it First string gets double decoded and convert in to some black diamond with question marks symbols.
so is there any way that we can differentiate these two strings and apply decode accordingly.
I hope this time, issue is more clear.
Thank you

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Re^3: How to avoid decoding string to utf-8.
by ikegami (Pope) on Oct 11, 2020 at 20:51 UTC

    First string gets double decoded

    You are mistaken. utf8::decode won't do anything if the string is already decoded (except in the very specific and unusual cases I mentioned in my earlier post).

    $ perl -CS -e' my $s = "\xC3\xA0\xC3\xA1\xC3\xA2\xC3\xA4"; printf("Before first decode: %1\$vX [%1\$s]\n", $s); utf8::decode($s) or warn("First decode failed.\n"); printf("After first decode: %1\$vX [%1\$s]\n", $s); utf8::decode($s) or warn("Second decode failed.\n"); printf("After second decode: %1\$vX [%1\$s]\n", $s); ' Before first decode: C3.A0.C3.A1.C3.A2.C3.A4 [àáâä] After first decode: E0.E1.E2.E4 [] Second decode failed. After second decode: E0.E1.E2.E4 []
Re^3: How to avoid decoding string to utf-8.
by haj (Curate) on Oct 11, 2020 at 17:43 UTC

    That black diamond with question marks symbol is the "Unicode replacement character" which is displayed by your terminal / editor for "invalid UTF-8" but not actually part of your string.

    If you know that the strings are either encoded from begin to end, or already decoded from begin to end, then you can just apply ikegami's regular expression to every string and decode if there's a match, or plain utf8::decode and hope for your luck. If the borders between encoded and decoded parts within one string isn't clear, you can apply the regular expression repeatedly, so each application removes one to four bytes from your string. It is still likely that you get "correct" results for normal text, though the probability of ambiguities is a bit higher than if you can operate on a string as a whole.

    use 5.020; # Heuristically "fix" a broken string use strict; use warnings; use utf8; use Encode qw/encode decode/; my $chars = ''; my $bytes = encode('UTF-8',$chars); my $mixed_pickles = "$chars $bytes $chars $bytes"; say "Before: ", encode('UTF-8',$mixed_pickles); my $utf8_decodable_regex = qr/[\xC0-\xDF][\x80-\xBF] | # 2 bytes unicode char [\xE0-\xEF][\x80-\xBF]{2} | # 3 bytes unicode char [\xF0-\xFF][\x80-\xBF]{3}/x; $mixed_pickles =~ s/($utf8_decodable_regex)/ decode('UTF-8',$1,Encode::FB_CROAK | Encode::LEAVE_SRC)/gex; say "After: ", encode('UTF-8',$mixed_pickles);
    Some notes about the flags I've used:
    • Encode::FB_CROAK is a safeguard against byte sequences which can be transformed according to the UTF-8 rules, but don't represent valid Unicode characters. An example for such an invalid sequence is "\xEF\xBF\xBE", which transforms to the invalid code point FFFE.
    • Encode::LEAVE_SRC prevents the decoding from changing the input string, which can be a mysterious source of errors. For a similar example, utf8::decode($string); does not return the decoded string, but converts in-place.

    Edit: Fixed an somewhat inaccurate description of LEAVE_SRC.

      Hi, haj, ikegami, Thank you for the reply.
      I tried with the regex provided, unfortunately it does not seem working, and returning the same result.
      Please note that, I am seeing this result on web application.
      Below is what I have tried,

      my $utf8_decodable_regex = qr/[\xC0-\xDF][\x80-\xBF] | # 2 bytes unicode char [\xE0-\xEF][\x80-\xBF]{2} | # 3 bytes unicode char [\xF0-\xFF][\x80-\xBF]{3}/x; $testStr=~ s/($utf8_decodable_regex)/decode('UTF-8',$1,Enc +ode::FB_CROAK | Encode::LEAVE_SRC)/gex; #$testStr = decode('utf-8',$testStr) if $testStr=~/$utf8_d +ecodable_regex/;
      Any breakthrough would be appreciated, while I am trying to get around this issue.
      Thank you for the efforts.

        If the data comes from a web application, consider that at least for form submissions, the browser sends you the character encoding in a header. If the web application sends the data by Javascript, talk to the web developers that they need to makes sure that their data is always UTF-8.

        I'm sorry, but it is unclear to me what "seeing this result on web application" actually means. Where do the data come from? Is your Perl code running as part of the web application, or did you write a web client and are trying to decode a response? How did you build $teststr, and how is it different from the example in my code? Where did you insert the code we suggested?

        In particular, my code example does not return anything, so I can't connect to "returning the same result". Without context, I can't offer any more.

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