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Basic forum use question - show all replies and comments

by h2 (Beadle)
on Apr 18, 2021 at 21:20 UTC ( #11131445=monkdiscuss: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

I'm not seeing any switch or option to turn on view all comments/replies in a thread, which is what I want so I can check a thread and see the entire thread, replies, comments, everything, at the same time. Is there such a view option? It's very difficult to actually read all replies and comments when you have to click many of them individually just to read what was hidden.

Also, I'd like to get rid of the "Replies are listed 'Best First'" sort because that's not the sort I want, I want either straight chronological, or nested chronological. This was particularly noticeable in a recent thread where 'best' had no meaning in the context of the thread, and the actual 'best' answers were actually hidden as comments you had to click to view.

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Replies are listed 'Best First'.
Re: Basic forum use question - show all replies and comments
by Anonymous Monk on Apr 18, 2021 at 21:25 UTC
    Check your Display Settings, e.g. Depth
      No wonder I couldn't find it, once you said to look for depth, I did, and it wasn't in Display Settings, where I'd looked already as the logical place for it to be, but it wasn't, so I poked around more, now that I knew what to look for, and found it in 'User Settings', last thing on the page. Set both types, thread header/text to 100, and applied the desired sort order. Might not be the worst idea in the world to add that set of items to the 'Display Settings' page as well, since that's where I looked for it, and where you believed it to be, for good reason, that's where it makes sense for it to be, being related to display of page. Now it shows as expected, thanks.
        > Might not be the worst idea in the world ...

        When you see something like

        Some notes below your chosen depth have not been shown here

        it "might not be the worst idea in the world" to click on the link chosen depth to jump directly to User settings

        Besides, you already got the advice to look for "Depth" after asking in the CB.

        2021-04-18 16:34:04 h2 Is there a way to show the entire thread, including comments, without +having to manually open each hidden comment or reply? 2021-04-18 16:38:21 Corion [h2]: You can set that in your settings - "reply depth" or something l +ike that

        Cheers Rolf
        (addicted to the Perl Programming Language :)
        Wikisyntax for the Monastery

Re: Basic forum use question - show all replies and comments
by Anonymous Monk on Apr 19, 2021 at 00:40 UTC
    Also, I'd like to get rid of the "Replies are listed 'Best First'" sort because that's not the sort I want, I want either straight chronological, or nested chronological.

    No one wants a website to shuffle conversations based on the popularity of each comment, but it do.

      > No one wants a ... , but it do.

      Football is like chess, only without the dice.

      Cheers Rolf
      (addicted to the Perl Programming Language :)
      Wikisyntax for the Monastery

      Yes, that one in particular was what made me post finally to figure out how the terminology for these forums actually work, and how to fix the settings so they were roughly usable, in this case, it created the somewhat silly situation where my own reply to a good answer or question was the 'highest rated', which meant that it appeared above the actual answers, which made no sense at all in that context.

      Stackoverflow does this but in that context, it's very rare for a user to post a reply as a posting, not a comment, and answers are basically answers, so it's not a very good example to emulate in a forum context like this, where you can have discussions and develop ideas until you got what you needed. Stackoverflow also doesn't hide stuff by default (except in their comments, where it's pretty much equally annoying as a default, that assumes that popularity reflects the best comment, which is not always the case, often isn't in fact), so you know the context of each answer and comments below replies and posts.

      Anyway, I've done web stuff for decades, but rule one is make things clear and obvious to users who don't already know the site and logic, but Perl is a bit different so I can see the desire to be different, so that's whatever, but as far usability goes, probably not the best idea in the world.
        as far usability goes, probably not the best idea

        It's a surreal idea that would make William S. Burroughs proud. Like if each edition of an ebook had its paragraphs rearranged based on how much time people spent reading them. Anonymous Monks have been living in this purgatory for about 2 years now because they did it on purpose!

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