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Re: Basic forum use question - show all replies and comments

by Anonymous Monk
on Apr 19, 2021 at 00:40 UTC ( [id://11131450]=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Basic forum use question - show all replies and comments

Also, I'd like to get rid of the "Replies are listed 'Best First'" sort because that's not the sort I want, I want either straight chronological, or nested chronological.

No one wants a website to shuffle conversations based on the popularity of each comment, but it do.

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Replies are listed 'Best First'.
Re^2: Basic forum use question - show all replies and comments
by LanX (Saint) on Apr 19, 2021 at 10:38 UTC
    > No one wants a ... , but it do.

    Football is like chess, only without the dice.

    Cheers Rolf
    (addicted to the Perl Programming Language :)
    Wikisyntax for the Monastery

Re^2: Basic forum use question - show all replies and comments
by h2 (Beadle) on Apr 19, 2021 at 04:03 UTC
    Yes, that one in particular was what made me post finally to figure out how the terminology for these forums actually work, and how to fix the settings so they were roughly usable, in this case, it created the somewhat silly situation where my own reply to a good answer or question was the 'highest rated', which meant that it appeared above the actual answers, which made no sense at all in that context.

    Stackoverflow does this but in that context, it's very rare for a user to post a reply as a posting, not a comment, and answers are basically answers, so it's not a very good example to emulate in a forum context like this, where you can have discussions and develop ideas until you got what you needed. Stackoverflow also doesn't hide stuff by default (except in their comments, where it's pretty much equally annoying as a default, that assumes that popularity reflects the best comment, which is not always the case, often isn't in fact), so you know the context of each answer and comments below replies and posts.

    Anyway, I've done web stuff for decades, but rule one is make things clear and obvious to users who don't already know the site and logic, but Perl is a bit different so I can see the desire to be different, so that's whatever, but as far usability goes, probably not the best idea in the world.
      as far usability goes, probably not the best idea

      It's a surreal idea that would make William S. Burroughs proud. Like if each edition of an ebook had its paragraphs rearranged based on how much time people spent reading them. Anonymous Monks have been living in this purgatory for about 2 years now because they did it on purpose!

        There is a low cost option open to you to avoid the default behavior.

        Optimising for fewest key strokes only makes sense transmitting to Pluto or beyond
        Like if each edition of an ebook had its paragraphs rearranged based on how much time people spent reading them

        You are mistaken. Replies to a node should not, and in general do not, depend on each other. Sometimes, of course, a later reply will say something like "As Ovid said above..." - and this can seem slightly strange if Ovid's reply is now below instead of above. But that's extremely minor.

        You would have a point if replies in a thread were presented out of order, like:

        Jim: comment 1
        Jim: comment 3
        Bob: comment 2
        But we never do that.

        I reckon we are the only monastery ever to have a dungeon staffed with 16,000 zombies.

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