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Re^3: TPF's Marketing Strategy for the Next Two Years

by jdporter (Canon)
on May 21, 2021 at 16:50 UTC ( #11132857=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re^2: TPF's Marketing Strategy for the Next Two Years
in thread TPF's Marketing Strategy for the Next Two Years

Yes; and the About page says that PerlMonks is an "affiliate" of TPF, and that TPF "carries the legal responsibility for" PerlMonks.

After some digging, I've found historical evidence that TPF was actually created by PerlMonks, Perl Mongers, and Yet Another Society — that last being the organization which ran the conferences and such. This move was announced on 2001-07-27.

So however tenuous the connection might be now, there can be no doubt that there is some kind of connection. It still remains to be seen exactly what that affiliation looks like on a concrete level.

I reckon we are the only monastery ever to have a dungeon staffed with 16,000 zombies.
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Re^4: TPF's Marketing Strategy for the Next Two Years
by LanX (Sage) on May 22, 2021 at 00:24 UTC
    > It still remains to be seen exactly what that affiliation looks like on a concrete level.

    In German law it's pretty clear - and I think it can't be much different in the US - that every website has to provide information about the responsible legal person.

    Especially as there is a real risk for a site that size to get involved in a lawsuit, more so when publishing content from total strangers.

    Now I was always under the impression that Tim Vroom was the original person, who "held the keys", and that he only shared/delegated the administration of this construct to the other gods.

    But at some point he might have thought, that he didn't want to carry all the risk anymore and sought the legal umbrella of the TPF.

    The fact that it's not better defined in writing here - including your own confusion - seems to indicate a deliberate gray zone. And the Perl community was always inclined to a certain hippy-like laissez-faire way.

    But the easiest way to clarify, is to ask Vroom himself. It must be in his vital interest to know, who might need to pay for the lawyers. I wouldn't be able to sleep otherwise.

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    My bet is that there is an - at least informal - agreement that TPF forms that protective umbrella. Because that's what the TPF was created for.

    But that doesn't mean that "they" have the power to decide about the design. Whatever "they" means.

    Cheers Rolf
    (addicted to the Perl Programming Language :)
    Wikisyntax for the Monastery

      I was always under the impression that Tim Vroom was the original person, who "held the keys",

      In fact, vroom — mythologies notwithstanding — never had any sole ownership of the site; he was simply its most prominent promoter and admin — and its main developer, once the umbilical cord with EveryDevel was cut.
      More to the point, the owner of PerlMonks was Blockstackers Intergalactic (BSI) / Everything Development Corp (EDC), of which vroom was an employee, while nate was a principal, along with CmdrTaco, et al.

      I reckon we are the only monastery ever to have a dungeon staffed with 16,000 zombies.
        Interesting ...

        > the owner of PerlMonks was

        And now?

        Is TPF the "owner" or the legal umbrella?

        Cheers Rolf
        (addicted to the Perl Programming Language :)
        Wikisyntax for the Monastery

Re^4: TPF's Marketing Strategy for the Next Two Years
by LanX (Sage) on May 22, 2021 at 00:53 UTC

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