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(OT) Revisionist History Lesson in Meditations
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by Anonymous Monk
on Aug 20, 2019 at 07:25
    15 Dec 2001
    http//svn.php.net/viewvc/phpdoc/en/trunk/appendices/history.xml?r1=64852&r2=65199&pathrev=314121
    
    PHP succeeds an older product, named PHP/FI. PHP/FI was
    created by Rasmus Lerdorf in 1995, initially as a simple
    set of Perl scripts
    
    05 Aug 2011
    https//web.archive.org/web/20110807085055/http://www.php.net/manual/en/history.php.php
    
    PHP as it's known today is actually the successor to a 
    product named PHP/FI. Created in 1994 by Rasmus Lerdorf, 
    the very first incarnation of PHP was a simple set of 
    Common Gateway Interface (CGI) binaries written in the 
    C programming language.
    
    20 Jul 2012
    https//twitter.com/rasmus/status/226405807305138176
    
    "I wonder why people keep writing that PHP was ever written in Perl. It never was."
    
    
What modules should be added to the corelist? in Meditations
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by Anonymous Monk
on Aug 16, 2019 at 09:17
Teen Perl in Meditations
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by Anonymous Monk
on Aug 09, 2019 at 03:14
    Will Braswell talks about "the Perl 11 Master Plan to make Perl the king of languages again" in the "State of the Scallion Address" at The Perl Conference 2019 in Pittsburgh. Step 1 of the plan: "We're going to have to educate young people". Perl has this hidden gem of a tutorial which was originally a multi-page website titled "Tinkering With Perl: A Child's Guide" that survives as a single webpage (without the enchanting subtitle) at https://cjshayward.com/perl/

    Will Braswell - "The State of the Scallion Address"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyphRo5roV0

    The Perl 11 Master Plan
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyphRo5roV0&t=27m20s

Perl growth in India, China, Russia, Germany and Romania in Meditations
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by Anonymous Monk
on Jul 05, 2019 at 17:22
    A recent comment on r/perl claims that Perl is growing "nicely" in several key nations of Europe and Asia. The author cites their own experience and google as sources:

    "If my google alerts don't mislead me Perl is growing nicely in India, China, Russia and Germany... I can testify to growth in Romania, based on the pressure the HR people are putting on me to recruit people from the places I worked before."

    I share this good news hoping it will make you happy; and also seeking confirmation from those who know where to find such information.

    https://old.reddit.com/r/perl/comments/btt9e9/every_time_i_hear_perl_is_dead_i_think_of_the/eqdno37/

Why is Perl 4 so popular? in Meditations
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by Anonymous Monk
on Nov 01, 2018 at 23:37
    Why are so many contenders to the throne of Perl nothing but a cheap copy of Perl 4?

    PHP, Python, Ruby, Javascript all start by copying Perl's worst practices, according to computer scientists, to become immensely popular, with no strict and globals everywhere.

    But the fun never lasts because they eventually succumb to aspersions of computer scientists to add all sorts of cruft to enforce austerities that satisfy obsessively compartmentalized minds.

    I think the reason is this: Languages like Perl force computers to think like people, rather than forcing people to think like computers.

    Don't get me wrong, we need the scientists to build and maintain the playgound so we can play, but we also need them to get the heck out of our way, and to stay away!

    Hard Fork Perl with a trendy cool name and make sure the batteries are included by throwing in a kitchen sink of about 1000 of the most awesome CPAN modules in a way that will do everything and run everywhere and you may have (another) winner.

    Perl 6, seriously, this is sad:

    
    $input.close or die $!;
    close($output);
    
    
repl.it has a perl problem in Meditations
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by Anonymous Monk
on Oct 25, 2018 at 15:23
    This is ridiculous: repl.it/languages
Perl 11 in Perl News
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by Anonymous Monk
on Oct 23, 2018 at 21:08
If 6 Was 9 in Meditations
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by Anonymous Monk
on Oct 15, 2018 at 14:00
    You know that feeling, when the big program you've been working on approaches completion, and you're scanning for those invisible bugs the others will find when running your code. That's when I saw something like this somewhere between lines 6000 and 7000:
    my $one = 1; my $six = my $nine = 9; print $six; # prints 9
    I didn't know you could chain lexical declarations like that! The bug survived for months because $nine was 0 and $six was supposed to be an empty string. Playing around with it reveals more questionable behavior:
    #!/usr/bin/perl -l use strict; use warnings; use diagnostics; print my $J = my $A = my $P = my $H = 'Just',' Another ','Perl',' Hacker';
    Does that look strict? :-)
Perhaps it's time to look at Perl 6 ? in Meditations
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by Anonymous Monk
on Oct 12, 2018 at 22:48
    Interesting meditation on Perl from a programmer dealing with a "complete nightmare" after 8 years of Beautiful is better than ugly:

    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18182921


    "But seriously, many computer scientists have fallen into the trap of trying to define languages like George Orwell’s Newspeak, in which it is impossible to think bad thoughts. What they end up doing is killing the creativity of programming.

    A more insidious trap, promulgated in many places these days (including the most recent Discover magazine), is that a computer program should be beautiful. Let me tell you that when it comes to computer languages, this is totally bogus. If you want to do beautiful art, you don’t go out and buy a beautiful canvas, and a beautiful brush, and a beautiful palette, and slather beautiful paints on it. If you want to write beautiful poetry, this doesn’t happen because you started with a beautiful language. Languages are an artistic medium. I don’t want Perl to be beautiful–I want you to write beautiful programs in Perl.

    Finally, I believe that any language essentially should be out of control, because no one person or institution is capable of controlling a language (or a culture, for that matter) without destroying it. Living languages are always a cooperative effort, and I want Perl to be a living language."

    From https://www.perl.com/pub/1997/wall/keynote.html


Is WebPerl the Holy Grail* of universal cross-platform Perl app distribution? in Meditations
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by Anonymous Monk
on Oct 11, 2018 at 12:05
    # Is WebPerl the Holy Grail* of universal # cross-platform Perl app distribution? $_=q` ______________ | PERLAPP | <- Your Perl app here. |_____|______| ______v_______ | WEBPERL | <- The Holy Grail* |_____^______| | | | | <- Internet. ______|____|__ | BROWSER v | <- Everywhere! | WEBPERLAPP | <- Downloaded! |____________| ______|_______ | WINDOWS | <- Anything... | LINUX | | MAC | | ETC | |____________| * Of universal cross-platform Perl application distribution. `and print
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