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unreaping , reversing reaped, resurrecting a node

by beech (Parson)
on May 03, 2016 at 06:45 UTC ( #1162068=monkdiscuss: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

The PerlMonks FAQ doesn't clarify what to do about unreaping a node, so what do you do?

This question raised by Reaped: Re: execute a string , it contains a link to actual perl code, so its not spam

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Re: unreaping , reversing reaped, resurrecting a node
by Corion (Pope) on May 03, 2016 at 07:10 UTC

    Unreaping is done by /msg'ing the gods.

    Personally, I'm not really happy with offsite links to code snippets, as I prefer that the code is immediately visible on this site.

Re: unreaping , reversing reaped, resurrecting a node
by jdporter (Canon) on May 03, 2016 at 13:27 UTC

    Yeah, I don't know why OGB called it spam, but I concur with the reaping. PM is not and cannot be a place where people drop bare links to offsite content, particularly if that content is simply code without any explanation or discussion. PM is capable of hosting code just fine; there is no need for pastebin or the like.

    (Of course, there's a limit, a threshold; it would be absurd to duplicate CPAN modules here, for example. Where that threshold is, exactly, is up to the community -- the moderators, specifically.)

    I reckon we are the only monastery ever to have a dungeon stuffed with 16,000 zombies.

      seems weirdly odd and hostile/unwelcoming to me, why purposeful discourage participation?

      if you can do the the consideration and voting, you could just as easy copy/post the code from the link

        A link offsite to any kind of paste-bin style code is guaranteed to be broken eventually and probably soon. The link was future garbage. It pointed to 25 lines of code that could have been placed here easily. Also, anonymonks get no benefit of the doubt with this kind of thing. If an even slightly well known monk had posted the link, it would not have been reaped.

        why purposeful discourage participation?

        A bare link to unexplained offsite code is hardly more participatory than actual spam.

        if you can do the the consideration and voting, you could just as easy copy/post the code from the link

        I'm sorry, but now you're just being ridiculous. It would be at least as easy for the OP to c&p the code, and the onus is entirely on the OP to do so. Maybe, if there were already significant discussion around the code, i might, as a moderator, be inclined to suggest to the OP that he c&p the code rather than link to it offsite. But even that tenuous standard is very far from met in a case like this.

        I reckon we are the only monastery ever to have a dungeon stuffed with 16,000 zombies.
        We don't discourage useful participation. However, a blind link accompanied by a cryptic one-liner generally fails to qualify as "useful".
Re: unreaping , reversing reaped, resurrecting a node
by Arunbear (Prior) on May 04, 2016 at 10:05 UTC
    Leaving the node in it's current state (reaped for being spam) makes us seem intolerant at best and capricious at worst, because we aren't practising what we preach i.e. the justifications for reaping are at odds with what is documented in How do I use the power of consideration responsibly?

      Yeah, I don't quite understand the (seems to me) allergic reaction to links to things that should just be pasted here. The rather minor flaw of "should have pasted it here" slightly lowers the value of the node. It does not make the node harmful and in need of removal. It doesn't even come close.

      My best guess is that it is a mis-applied immune response to actual spam. We should not be reaping a node because some people find it almost useless!

      All of the flaws pointed out in this thread are things that should have been addressed via replying to the node (or just waiting for somebody else to have the eloquence to do so).

      - tye        

      makes us seem intolerant at best and capricious at worst

      I don't know if I'd say one is "best" and the other "worst"; but it's hardly debatable that we are indeed both. These are the consequences of having not rigorously defined policies and rules and rather letting the community decide for itself what it tolerates or not, and the makeup of the community being in a constant state of flux over time.

      I reckon we are the only monastery ever to have a dungeon stuffed with 16,000 zombies.

      What is consideration? gives the test: Don't consider a node unless you feel strongly that something specific should be done. That seems to be inherently somewhat subjective and capricious.

      What makes one brief note with a link (say a pointer to some news) okay, while another rubs us the wrong way? Could it be we find shameless plugs deplorable? Could it be we dislike deliberate attempts to make us click and play fetch? Nay, methinks the "spam" designation was not far off the mark!

      Furthermore, the repost does not strike me as a quality node either. Section of code that does not run. Link to identical content, offsite. Do you want me to click some external links, do you?

      There is no substitute for editing. Not editing your nodes is disrespectful to your peers. Anybody interested in testing the code will need to fix it first. Not only are you delegating secretarial duties, you have everyone duplicate the effort.

      What is spam?

        "Section of code that does not run."

        Which section and why does it not run? (Isn't this statement a worse violation than anything else you're claiming.)

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