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Persuading turkeys to vote for christmas

by BrowserUk (Pope)
on May 19, 2016 at 23:44 UTC ( #1163552=perlmeditation: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

Tipping is a culturally dividing phenomena.

In some parts of this world, paying some optional (but expected), discretionary (but socially narrowly defined) percentage of the bill for your food, to the house, for them to divvy up according to some (usually wholly inequitable) formula, between everyone front of house (and sometimes those in the back) -- often including those you feel do not warrant a tip -- in lieu of paying them a descent wage; is the $NORM.

In other parts; tipping is a genuinely discretionary gratuity, paid by you to that or those persons you feel are deserving of it.

The weird part is that most everyone in those former parts can see the inequities; but they blithely continue to perpetuate them anyway.

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Re: Persuading turkeys to vote for christmas
by polettix (Vicar) on May 20, 2016 at 07:54 UTC

    I'm not sure how much the tipping example applies here. People who own/run a restaurant get the "contents" of the bill (which is still money), is this fair? Fair with respect to the tips? Also, who gets to pay taxes on the tips? I'm quite sure that tips in Italy (we are in other parts) don't get taxed.

    Here, I think that only the "owner" got a lot of "money" upfront that nobody gave him. But hey! He also got to create the money, so he was totally entitled to get so much of it!

    I don't know how it works for anyone else (e.g. gods), but there's nothing hinting that they get a bigger piece of the cake. So, it seems we're all serving here, and those in the back don't get a penny.

    If I were to compare the system here to the tipping system, I'd say that it's much more similar to other parts than not:

    • you get XPs when you write something that adds value (and others cast their vote on what you write). Here, the more successful your service (a post), the more you earn (odds increase for reputations beyond some thresholds);
    • you get XPs when you vote something, which adds value per-se because it helps good stuff to emerge (although if you constantly down-vote only you're encouraged to stop and try to see the bright side of life);
    • you don't get XPs if you don't do anything (apart possibly getting a few pennies every now and then, just for showing up);
    • you lose XPs when others dissent, which is like people at the restaurant getting refunded for not having received a good service.
    Sometimes the taxing system steals you some. It's more similar to a reverse tax system though: the more tips your post receives, the less the tax system takes.

    The current system with the complicated $NORM and thresholds and odds and all the rest can be cumbersome. It might have been designed since the beginning with a reverse mindset: instead of odds of getting 1 XP per vote, it might have set odds for getting additional XPs per vote. I didn't run simulations, but I imagine that from an helicopter's view it would probably seem quite similar to what we have today in shape, just scaled up.

    perl -ple'$_=reverse' <<<ti.xittelop@oivalf

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Re: Persuading turkeys to vote for christmas
by Funkly_Monkly (Initiate) on May 21, 2016 at 15:02 UTC
    I do not see any similarity of your comparison to an ego boosting XP system and a job you need just to live.

    If your where working for money as your tips would you still want perlmonks to record and display that number for everyone to see?
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Re: Persuading turkeys to vote for christmas
by ikegami (Pope) on May 23, 2016 at 05:12 UTC
    There's also parts of the world where tipping is an insult.
Re: Persuading turkeys to vote for christmas
by Anonymous Monk on May 20, 2016 at 00:00 UTC
    Why go against the flow when you're already addicted?

    IIRC it is possible to opt out of $NORM system

Re: Persuading turkeys to vote for christmas
by Anonymous Monk on May 19, 2016 at 23:57 UTC
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