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Re^3: Editing your writeup is now a separate action from viewing a thread and voting on replies

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on Jun 13, 2016 at 21:31 UTC ( #1165509=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re^2: Editing your writeup is now a separate action from viewing a thread and voting on replies
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I wouldn't say I hate it. It just seems to take two steps at each stage in place of a previous 1.

Eg. Due to a browser bug, my posts frequently end up with extraneous text appended.

With the old system, when I commit the post, I can immediately see if there has been such an addition, and then right below I can delete it and re-commit.

With the new system, this does not show up in the "this is how it renders" part, so I have to go to the display view to see if anything has been appended; if it has, switch back to the edit view to delete it; then back to the display view to check it has actually gone (and nothing else has been added); and if it hasn't (or has), back to the edit view...

I appreciate that I'm one very few Opera users that is afflicted by this particular problem; but none the less, it just seems retrograde to introduce this modality to the site in order to "fix" something that had been perfectly fine for over a decade.

As (presumably) the old code is probably still there, if there were an option for me to configure my settings to revert to that old way, I would utilise it.


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Re^4: Editing your writeup is now a separate action from viewing a thread and voting on replies
by jdporter (Canon) on Jun 14, 2016 at 21:10 UTC

    It seems that I grossly overestimated the story points involved in making the change you desired. ;-)

    Please go to your Display Settings, scroll all the way to the bottom, and find the checkbox for "Edit your writeup directly in the display view, instead of in a separate page".

    I am happy to have been of service. :-)

    I reckon we are the only monastery ever to have a dungeon stuffed with 16,000 zombies.

      What can I say beyond: Thank you.

      I am happy to have been of service. :-)

      (Erm. I'm happy to have been serviced. :)


      With the rise and rise of 'Social' network sites: 'Computers are making people easier to use everyday'
      Examine what is said, not who speaks -- Silence betokens consent -- Love the truth but pardon error.
      "Science is about questioning the status quo. Questioning authority". I knew I was on the right track :)
      In the absence of evidence, opinion is indistinguishable from prejudice. Not understood.
Re^4: Editing your writeup is now a separate action from viewing a thread and voting on replies
by jdporter (Canon) on Jun 13, 2016 at 21:38 UTC
    With the new system, this does not show up in the "this is how it renders" part

    Are you sure? If so, that would have to be a pretty major browser bug, since I know for sure that the server is sending the new version of the node in the "this is how it renders" part.

      Also, whilst trying to re-create the problem, I discovered a different (PM) bug.

      When viewing this thread from the OP down, this post shows a reputation of 4; but when I view the post on its own, it shows a reputation of 0?


      With the rise and rise of 'Social' network sites: 'Computers are making people easier to use everyday'
      Examine what is said, not who speaks -- Silence betokens consent -- Love the truth but pardon error.
      "Science is about questioning the status quo. Questioning authority". I knew I was on the right track :)
      In the absence of evidence, opinion is indistinguishable from prejudice. Not understood.
        Also, whilst trying to re-create the problem, I discovered a different (PM) bug.

        Yep, I can confirm that. My current guess is that factoring out the display of the reputation managed to have the reputation being fetched in a context such that it is being fetched from the wrong thing. Though my quick attempts to guess at what that wrong thing might be failed, so I could just be wrong.

        Update: Okay, trying again in a context where I had more access to information, my first guess was actually right.

        - tye        

        Thank you all for the bug report(s). Fixed.

        I reckon we are the only monastery ever to have a dungeon stuffed with 16,000 zombies.
        Hi, I see a vote issue as well, when I go to Perl Monks Discussion to upvote new questions, I see Reputation: 0 for all the questions I just upvoted, this is not their true reputation, if I click to view the actual node, a non-zero number is shown

        update:

        Viewing this node through its parent shows Reputation: 5 (no significant downvotes) which is impossible since I just posted the node

        Curiously 5 is also the parents reputation

        And indeed, when I viewed the entire thread immediately after posting the above post, it showed a rep of 4; viewing directly showed 0 as expected.

        Summat's hooky.


        With the rise and rise of 'Social' network sites: 'Computers are making people easier to use everyday'
        Examine what is said, not who speaks -- Silence betokens consent -- Love the truth but pardon error.
        "Science is about questioning the status quo. Questioning authority". I knew I was on the right track :)
        In the absence of evidence, opinion is indistinguishable from prejudice. Not understood.

      It's hard for me to prove it as the (browser) bug only happens intermittently, but I am quite sure I've seen stuff on show up in the display view that I didn't see in the how it renders view.

      All I can do is commit to taking a snapshot of the renders view each time I edit a post before I switch to the display view until it happens again.


      With the rise and rise of 'Social' network sites: 'Computers are making people easier to use everyday'
      Examine what is said, not who speaks -- Silence betokens consent -- Love the truth but pardon error.
      "Science is about questioning the status quo. Questioning authority". I knew I was on the right track :)
      In the absence of evidence, opinion is indistinguishable from prejudice. Not understood.

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