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Re: So merlyn why did you hack the password file?

by Spenser (Friar)
on Dec 27, 2001 at 00:48 UTC ( #134481=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Reaped: So merlyn why did you hack the password file?

I'm reluctant to extend this thread any further and reluctant to get in the cross fire of you high XP-monks, but I would like to make a point that may be of benefit to myself and others in the future in that it calls for a precedence.

If a monk (i.e., merlyn) is under attack from outsiders, be it an employer (like Intel), or a government (like Oregon), or other mere humans (a.k.a. computer illiterates), we should be able to post messages in this community to seek compassion and understanding.  A monk who posts a message about a personal, perl related problem is probably looking for friends to rally around him, friends who can truly understand his problem.  I think these kind of posts should receive only friendly responses.  If I think that the hurt monk is actually in the wrong, then I should keep it to myself.

When it comes to code issues, tell posters when they're wrong.  When it comes to concerns about life as a perl programmer, we don't need tough-love.

Again, as a matter of precedence, if I have a problem in the course of conducting myself as a perl programmer and feel missunderstood and hurt, I hope that I can post a message to this community for moral support.  It would be very hurtful if someone in this group said that I deserved it.  I would hate to have to live like merlyn must do and have to always balance supporting posts against condemning ones.

-Spenser

That Spenser, with an "s" like the detective.
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Re: Re: So merlyn why did you hack the password file?
by footpad (Monsignor) on Dec 27, 2001 at 05:57 UTC

    Again, as a matter of precedence, if I have a problem in the course of conducting myself as a perl programmer and feel missunderstood and hurt, I hope that I can post a message to this community for moral support.

    You can. Use care to ensure that such a request is polite, honest, and hides no self-agenda. It's a lot harder than it seems. When I've composed posts I thought could be seen as hurtful, I've frequently saved them locally and let them sit overnight. If, after reviewing them in the morning, I still feel that's the appropriate way to phrase my comments, then I'll post them.

    Also, it may be best to private /msg other monks you respect to get their take.

    There's a fine line between asking for a clarification and coming off like a complete kneebiter. Frequently, Perception is 9/10th of the Flaw.

    I believe the Monastery responds very well when approached properly.

    --f

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