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Re: Thoughts on Perl6 - Love it? Hate it?

by TheDamian (Priest)
on Jan 11, 2002 at 05:29 UTC ( #137886=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

in reply to Thoughts on Perl6 - Love it? Hate it?

[I'm on the road, so this will have to be brief]

Re: Next Apocalpyse/Exegesis

I've seen Larry's first draft of A4 and it's brilliant. We're working through a few rough edges and that will continue on Perl Whirl '02 next week. I'll write E4 on the ship (no holidays for Perl serfs!) and the A4/E4 pair should appear late Feb.

Re: Worry's about Larry and Damian muddling something fundamental

We worry about that too. But we have Nat Torkington, Jarrko Hietaniemi, Dan Sugalski, Simon Cozens, Hugo van der Sanden, and Jon Orwant on the design review team. Very few mistakes survive that calibre of scrutiny.

Then we have the entire Perl community giving us feedback on the decisions once they're made public. And we listen to that feedback very closely. Remember how the <> input operator was going to go away? Well, the outcry was so overwhelming (and so many good points made in its favour) that Larry reversed that decision.

The future of Perl is (collectively) in very safe hands.

Re: Scary changes in Perl 6

I have an article in the next Perl Journal (out next month) entitled "And Now For Something Completely Similar..." that illustrates that Perl 6 is going to be very much like Perl 5 for a large number of coders. And is going to feel entirely Perlish, even where it does differ from Perl 5.

I take five real-world programs (written by members of the Perl 6 design team) and port them to Perl 6. The gimmick is, of course, how little these typical (small) Perl programs actually change.

Edited 2002-01-10 by dvergin to fix use of square brackets

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Re: Re: Thoughts on Perl6 - Love it? Hate it?
by petral (Curate) on Jan 21, 2002 at 03:29 UTC
      Re: Worry's about Larry and Damian muddling something fundamental

    Actually, I'm not worried about that (especially, because of the reasons/people mentioned), I was just giving examples of thoughts that cross my mind while reading.

    What I do watch for is some things for the simple-things-easy end of the see-saw over against all the furniture on the hard-things-easier end.   But putting in those sorts of shortcuts now certainly seems akin to premature optimization.


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