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Understanding the difficulties of raising a young perl coder...

by jjhorner (Hermit)
on Jul 19, 2000 at 18:02 UTC ( #23181=monkdiscuss: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

Understanding the difficulties of raising a young perl coder, should we see about easing the burden?

I'm more than willing to help out by sending diapers, formula, or even O'Reilly books to the mother and her little camel. Does anyone think this is appropriate? I know how much trouble my brother and his wife had, and I don't wish that on anyone. Let me know if I'm way off base. Just trying to help.

Also, if anyone wants to help me work on a perl book for kids ("My first Perl book"), let me know. I'm toying with the idea.

J. J. Horner
Linux, Perl, Apache, Stronghold, Unix
jhorner@knoxlug.org http://www.knoxlug.org/
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RE: Understanding the difficulties of raising a young perl coder...
by greenhorn (Sexton) on Jul 19, 2000 at 21:45 UTC
    Just this morning I was thinking about the need for "use strict" propaganda--reading enough posts here with stern remarks about "strict" has finally given me religion. :)

    To this end, there needs to be a large, colorful, persuasive poster. I was imagining a WWII-style illustration after the fashion of the old "Buy War Bonds!" and "Keep 'Em Flying!" posters: several clean-living, cheerful, patriotic-looking souls (or, in this case, perhaps it'd have to be several decidedly unkempt-looking geeks who clearly haven't had much sleep) gazing confidently off into the distance, with "use strict" in very large letters floating in the sky above them.

    So, find an illustrator willing to do all of that work for almost nothing :), and put the poster on the wall in the kid's room. Right near the crib. Start 'em out young, I say.

      perhaps one of those good ol' Uncle Sam type posters. with Larry Wall/merlyn/vroom/monk-of-choice standing there in the uncle sam garb pointing at the viewer with a caption entitled:

      "I want you to use strict;"

      just a suggestion.
        /me thinks of Larry Wall (with bushy mustache) in Park Ranger hat saying, "Only you can prevent uninitialized variables."

        Russ
        Brainbench 'Most Valuable Professional' for Perl

        Yeah! and at the top it should read, "#!usr/bin/perl -w"
      Perhaps reuse some of the "Soviet Socialist Republic of Perl" imagery from ActiveState...
RE: Understanding the difficulties of raising a young perl coder... (ask misty?)
by ybiC (Prior) on Jul 19, 2000 at 18:24 UTC
    "anyone think this is appropriate?"
    misty herself would be the best Monk to answer that question.   jjhorner ++ for thinking of it.

    Don't know how much help I'd be for writing it, but "My First Perl Book" is an awesome idea!   Wish there had been such books 30 years ago   8^P   Let me know if you pursue the idea.   I'd pitch in somehow.
        cheers,
        ybiC

      jjhorner, that was *really* nice of you to offer - especially that I find myself dreaming of helpful neighbors, who would offer to cook for us for a couple of weeks ;) .

      Interesting idea about the book. We were discussing with my husband the importance of early introduction to science - especially mathematics. My mother was studying in university when I was a toddler, and she used to spend a lot of time with me, explaining what she's doing :) , teaching basic arithmetics etc. It seems to me that made a huge difference in my life, particularly in my thinking ability and interest in studies.

      How would one start teaching a child programming languages? I was introduced to computers late, and have no idea when and how I'll teach Adriel computing.

      -- Tired but happy misty

RE: Understanding the difficulties of raising a young perl coder...
by base_16 (Beadle) on Jul 19, 2000 at 22:58 UTC
    `My first Perl book' is a great idea! When I was about 8, I had a book along the lines of `My first BASIC book', but I would have much rather learned Perl than BASIC. I'd be willing to pitch in somewhat if you decided to keep going with it. =)
    Justin TerAvest
    base16@crosswinds.net
Buzzcutbuddha - My First Perl Book....
by buzzcutbuddha (Chaplain) on Jul 19, 2000 at 20:58 UTC
    'My First Perl Book' takes me back to those heady days of summer, seven years old banging away at the keyboard typing in BASIC on my Commodore 64, making the sprites move around the screen, peeking and poking the memory...reading my Programming for Kids book. MAD magazine came out with an issue that had code for the Commodore and the TRS-80 and others to make Alfred E. Neuman's face show up on your screen...*sigh* what good times.
RE: Understanding the difficulties of raising a young perl coder...
by jjhorner (Hermit) on Jul 25, 2000 at 18:30 UTC

    I've been doing a little research into children's books.

    I am thinking that a good way to go would be to use a cute cuddly little camel as the hero of the book (I'm not going to name him Joe), and the book will rhyme, with about a stanza per page, with a cute background.

    I'll let you all know when I will need the help, because I will need help.

    Thanks,

    J. J. Horner
    Linux, Perl, Apache, Stronghold, Unix
    jhorner@knoxlug.org http://www.knoxlug.org/
    
RE: Understanding the difficulties of raising a young perl coder...
by jlistf (Monk) on Jul 21, 2000 at 20:13 UTC
    if you decide to go through with the book, let me know. i'd be willing to help out. (and at the end of the summer i'll even have some experience).

    can anyone out there say "baby camel"?

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