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Fortune Quotes on PerlMonk pages

by gri6507 (Deacon)
on May 13, 2003 at 15:55 UTC ( #257795=monkdiscuss: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

Hello Monks,

Maybe I am not the most attentive person in the world. Even though I try to be very careful, especially when writing code, I may miss a few obvious things. Like for example, just the other week, I noticed that the coffee shop I pass by every day on my way to work was recently repainted … into an almost neon (salad) green! Apparently, it was painted so almost a month ago.

But that is not what I wanted to discuss here. I am sure most of you have used a program like Fortune, which outputs great quotes like “Oliver’s Law: Experience is something you don’t have until just after you need it” and ”A student who changes the course of history is probably taking an exam”. So, I thought that PerlMonks, being a community with a good sense of humor, could use some hilarity somewhere on the page. And off I went carefully exploring the pages to see where such quotes would fit. Thus, I finally found a little section where quotes like ”Your skill will accomplish what the force of many cannot” and ”Welcome to the Monastery” are printed.

These quotes are very appropriate for the webpage, but I was wondering, wouldn’t it be more fun to intersperse these “proletariat” quotes with random senselessness that Fortune generates? Or maybe there should be another section, somewhere near the existing one, to output just the Fortune quotes? What do you think?

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Re: Fortune Quotes on PerlMonk pages
by halley (Prior) on May 13, 2003 at 16:59 UTC

    This is totally not a flame... don't take it personally.

    Maybe Fortune is something novel and zany to you, and to some visitors of the site, but frankly, if I had a penny for the past 30 years of sites and emails and scripts assaulting me with stale Bartlett's quotes, Zippy wisdom and USENET ramblings, I could buy out Microsoft.

    [ e d @ h a l l e y . c c ]

      I understand your concern. If you feel so strongly against such a printout appearing on every page by default, maybe it's worthwhile to consider adding this as a new Nodelet option.
        You can already switch the "monk quips" off in your User Settings. (I have.)

        Makeshifts last the longest.

Re: Fortune Quotes on PerlMonk pages
by teabag (Pilgrim) on May 13, 2003 at 17:26 UTC
    I've always liked random senselessness, and can play for up to 15 minutes (easy) with things like the random band generator or even closer to home(node) the yoda speak translator.

    I also believe the PM community indeed has a good sense of humour, and it might be nice to have just a little bit more nonsense.

    If it were up to me I'd suggest a complete new section and call it the "PerlMonk Perlsonal Oracle" or something, and would only be completely satified if it spoke complete and total gibberish...

    Then again, we could just call it frotune? ;)

    P.S. Did they really paint the coffeeshop?

    Sure there's more than one way, but one just needs one anyway - Teabag

      Maybe "senselessness" or "nonesense" were the worng words. Fortune's output is simply a random selection of predefined quotes. Quotes from famous people (Poets, Scientists, Presidents, etc) and regular expressions (no punn intended) of the comon folk.
Re: Fortune Quotes on PerlMonk pages (monk quips)
by VSarkiss (Monsignor) on May 13, 2003 at 17:52 UTC

    Technically, those are "monk quips", which you can turn on or off in your User Settings. Right now there's a fixed list of them, about 15-20 last time I counted. I turned them off a long time ago, and I probably wouldn't turn them back on even if they pulled quotes off a QOTD server or some such. use Perl; has a fairly decent set of quotes from Larry Wall and other Perl people, but even those get old fast.

    Count me among the crotchety naysayers.

Re: Fortune Quotes on PerlMonk pages
by mojotoad (Monsignor) on May 13, 2003 at 17:26 UTC
    Like for example, just the other week, I noticed that the coffee shop I pass by every day on my way to work was recently repainted … into an almost neon (salad) green! Apparently, it was painted so almost a month ago.

    I've got that one beat. Several years ago, the house across the street from my apartment blew up and was so structurally damaged they had to raze it to the ground. I wasn't home during the initial incident and didn't notice anything amiss until a visitor came over a couple of weeks later and asked where the house went.

    (the causative incident was a failed suicide attempt...a clinically depressed guy stuck his head in a gas oven, gas ignited, guy survived, house didn't)


Re: Fortune Quotes on PerlMonk pages
by porkpilot (Deacon) on May 13, 2003 at 22:07 UTC
    I think this is a fantastic idea and I think the intelligence and wit of our monks is one of the most non-Perl-centric attractions of this site. ++ to you!
Re: Fortune Quotes on PerlMonk pages
by moxliukas (Curate) on May 14, 2003 at 12:18 UTC

    Huh... I always thought that perlmonks did have a fortunes style thingie. There are about 10 or so quotes that keep coming up on the top of the page, above the "Search" area. It has things like "be consistant", "Keep It Simple, Stupid", "Just another Perl shrine", "Think about Loose Coupling" and so on. I thought this was pretty close to what is proposed hee. Te only thing one might need to do is just add a couple more quotes, cause 10 or so seem to be a bit too little.

Re: Fortune Quotes on PerlMonk pages
by Dog and Pony (Priest) on May 18, 2003 at 07:16 UTC
    I could think to add some quotes by famous Perl persons, such as the Larry Wall quotes to the list of those that are already showing. But fortune... nah. Those you see everywhere, though thankfully maybe a bit less now...
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