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(Ovid -- Plus vs. Minus votes) RE(4): Proposed XP System Changes
by Ovid (Cardinal) on Aug 04, 2000 at 22:35 UTC
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Aha! Are you saying it's possible to find the total number of ++ versus -- votes on a given node? Is is possible to add that to node reputation display? Inquiring minds want to know....
I've had quite a few nodes appear to bounce up and down in rep and I think this would be a fascinating indicator of how interesting|controversial|provocative a node is. | [reply] |
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Yeah, for a week now I've been thinking it would be
cool to show net rep (just like now) and minus votes
(if any) (like "Reputation: 4 (-3)" for 7 plus and 3 minus
votes), but only for nodes you own. I don't think the
number of minus votes should be public, but I don't feel
strongly about that point.
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I agree with the comments on being able to see the ++ and -- votes on a given node.
That would be an interesting little stat to have.
Another suggestion I'd like to throw out there, is I think
it would be good if, after we've used all our votes
for the day, we could see the reputation on any node, even
if we hadn't voted on that node. One of the things people have
been emphasizing is getting new monks to learn about what are
good and bad posts by having the voting bonuses still apply
for the lower levels. But the lower levels are only supplied
with a small amount of votes, making it so we only see the
reputations for just a few nodes per day.
I definitely see the wisdom of not letting people see the
reputations before voting. Otherwise votes might be swayed
because people are expecting nodes with high reps to be good
and nodes with low reps to be not so good. Once all the votes
have been used for the day, this ceases to be an issue, however.
Another option would be to have another vote type, kinda like
the null vote in that it wouldn't change the nodes reputation
at all, but would let the person see the nodes rep. Of course
this would only let people who have votes to give see the nodes
reps.
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I'd rather we didn't see the reps on *everybody's* nodes --
I'm afraid that would make novices too timid about posting.
I do think that all registered users should see the reps of
Anonymous Monk posts. That would make Anonymous Monk
a responsive way for people to float ideas, as well as
providing a little motivation to use it responsibly.
Shy monks could use it to get their feet wet,
and it would make the voting system less mysterious to
beginners.
On the other hand, people might post things anonymously just
so everyone could see how cool they are... then try to take
credit later via posts and chatterbox... and beginners whose
anonymous posts get slammed might be frightened away.
So there are two sides to it. Isn't life tough?
Happy programming,
grackle
Speaking of votes, I just became a novice but I don't see
any ++ and -- buttons.... Is there something I need to
change in my user settings?
All exact science is dominated by the idea of approximation.
-- Bertrand Russell
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Letting someone see reps when they use their votes for a
day just means that they can not vote on a node, use the
votes on other nodes, and still see the rep for a node they
have not voted on.
Roy Alan
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plus and minus votes
by atl (Pilgrim) on Aug 05, 2000 at 01:08 UTC
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Thank you for checking! :-)
I agree with the previous posts, I'd like to see the
plus and minus counts, too. After all they indicate wether
or not the general opinion on a given node is unanimous
or controversal.
But that shouldn't be restricted to one's own nodes,
I'd like to see them displayed every time the count
is displayed. They might even be worth an own node
(best nodes, worst nodes and most controversal nodes).
What do vroom and the others think?
Andreas
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As an incurable stats fiend, my first thought was "Cool, more stats!"
But on second thought, do we really want to encourage controversy by publicly quantifying it? There will always be disagreements and that's truly A Good Thing(TM), but I could do without a Most Controversial Nodes node.
Update: s/encourage controversy/encourage more controversy/
inspired by atl's thoughts below
Update 2: I do agree with tye who suggested above that each Monk might benefit from seeing the swing on his/her own nodes.
cheers,
ybiC
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Well, not more or less than already encouraged by
displaying the reputation totals. But I think there
are a lot more stats and information junkies
online here ;-).
Just my two cents ...
Andreas
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