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Re: Number 1 mistake to not avoid during an interview

by Anonymous Monk
on Sep 18, 2003 at 05:28 UTC ( #292323=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

in reply to (OT) Number 1 mistake to not avoid during an interview

don't conceal your enthusiasm.

I would fear my enthusiasm would be construed as childish. Like "Hey coool! This machine is really neat!". Most programmers would never react this way in an interview. They want to seem calm and reserved, and I don't blame them. In general, people want to confirm stereotypes, not break from them. Stereotypes make us feel comfortable.

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Re: Re: Number 1 mistake to not avoid during an interview
by svsingh (Priest) on Sep 18, 2003 at 13:18 UTC
    But do you want to work for people like that? I one hired someone because they said, "I want to come into work and see people who are happy to be here." She ended up being one of the best people we've ever hired. Only drones look for other drones.

      Jesus H. Christ, man! "Only drones look for other drones!" Nobody who is a drone thinks they're a drone.

      Some people have decided they are defined by things other than their job, and after that decision it's very easy to decide that your choice of job doesn't really matter. It's very easy to look for stability and a so-so work environment and call it good enough.

      The pinnacle of work is a job you love that pays well. On either side of that pinnacle are jobs you love that pay poorly (or just barely enough), or jobs you dislike but are steady, stable, well-paying jobs. Further down that mountain are jobs that suck on all counts but are the only jobs in the area, etc. Some of us don't have the luxury of working somewhere that's worth working at and pleasant, and some people literally do not care.

      Nobody, but nobody, calls themself a 'drone', unless it's some sort of derogatory internal dialogue. People think of themselves as dedicated parents working a job that sucks for the good of their children, or they need work to do to subdue the buzzing in their head, or whatever -- but they don't seek droneage out.

      You are what you think.

        Okay, maybe that was a bit flippant, but I never said "only people who see themselves as drones..." There are companies/groups/individuals who put a higher value on stabilty and conformity when hiring new people, just like there are c/g/i who seek out the opposite.

        What I was trying to get across was that if you're enthusiastic about your work, then look for a group that wants enthusiastic people. On the other side (unsaid in my original post), if you want stability because work isn't your priority, then look for a group that supports that.

        Sorry, I wasn't trying to be judgemental. Drones was a poor choice of words. It just seemed a lot simpler to close with that sentence than this whole explanation. :)

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