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Re: Re: Life beyond CGI and DBI

by Anonymous Monk
on Oct 09, 2003 at 05:22 UTC ( #297822=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

in reply to Re: Life beyond CGI and DBI
in thread Life beyond CGI and DBI

If I was interviewing someone for a potential job and he or she had been writing CGI applications for 5 years without seriously investigating what resources were available to do things better, then I would recommend against hiring.

And if I was interviewing someone for a job and they posted this I wouldn't hire them either, but that's not the slightest bit relevant now is it?

punchcard_don is not asking "would you hire me based on this post" he's asking for recommendations on whether other areas of Perl programming are worth learning1. Saying "I'm wouldn't hire you cause you suck nananananana"2 in response doesn't really add anything to the discussion.

In addition, he says he's been "working with Perl for 5 years now." That doesn't mean it's been his full time employment, it doesn't mean he claims to be an expert, it doesn't mean anything more than he wrote.

Either way, he's asking for advice and trying to learn. Your reply definately won't assist him in that area. I expected better.

1Before it's pointed out. Yes, everything is worth learning, but currently time is finite so you have to prioritize.

2Not a direct quote.

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Re: Re: Re: Life beyond CGI and DBI
by tilly (Archbishop) on Oct 09, 2003 at 06:23 UTC
    Out of order points of reply.
    • My presumption that he had been doing Perl for work is based on his phrase, ...but work has never brought me to these places.
    • His phrasing, I an accidental some of this other stuff marginal and/or just for elegance? strongly suggested to me that he is looking to validate his continued non-investment in self-education. I therefore wanted to write a reply that he couldn't possibly misinterpret. Yes, I am reading between the lines there. I know that my habit of trying to read between the lines sometimes gets me into serious unnecessary trouble. But I believe that the times I hit on something important that would otherwise have been missed pay for the occasional debacle.
    • I think that it is relevant that you independently would have decided based on the above information to not hire. That demonstrates that my opinion is not exactly an isolated one. I think that it is nicer to honestly tell people who ask where they can improve than to be silent and let them be confused later about why they are being rejected.
    • I thought that it was worthwhile to add to this thread a short discussion of some of the things that people (both the original poster and other bystanders) should look to get out of their own learning efforts.
    • The only set of expectations that I try to satisfy are my own. I long ago accepted that trying to meet other people's expectations is a losing game which I won't worry about. OK, I'm not as extreme as Linus, but I certainly understand where he is coming from...

      Fair enough (yep, that's my entire response ;-)

      Thanks for the link, I hadn't read that before. I'll leave the discussion of whether or not that's a good example of project leadership for another day :)

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