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Pubs as well. Pubs are mostly about beer, and beer is known to induce bellies and (to) further dumbness, contrary to wine. As a person from a country where wine has a long standing history, and more precisely from a zone where its presence in the landscape and in everyday's life is even more pervasive (ATM I'm exactly here) I must say that I can and do appreciate beer as well. Dojo is a fine alternative Yep, because a dojo as a "place where to find the way" so it is or can be also a school, but at least in principle it's much more as well. Anyway, however sound your argumentations are, however a commonplace can it be, I still don't like the school suggestion - unless the school provides a resonable number of keg fonts as well: All the school kids so sick of books (And Egyptians did know beer, albeit of a very different kind wrt the one we are used to now.) In reply to Re^4: Were it not a monastery, my favourite metaphor for PerlMonks would have been:
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