Re: Re: Re: Re: Re^7: Module::Build and the PPM

[ysth]

I think "lots of people" is a gross overstatement. In fact, I don't think Ken has ever said it will happen "real soon now". The few people I've seen discussing putting M::B in 5.10 were Hugo van der Sanden, the 5.10 pumpking, and maybe a few other people on the p5p list. I know that Ken hasn't been pushing this. His attitude has always been that it can go in the core when a pumpking thinks it's ready.

I'm one of the few other people; as far as I can see, there's a vicious spiral going on; Hugo (and please correct me if I'm wrong) would like to see it stable before going into bleadperl. Until it gets into bleadperl, it won't get fixed to work on "minor" platforms. Until it works on all platforms, it isn't stable. The answer, to me, is to stick it in, perhaps converting a sampling of the core modules to be built with it, and deal with the failures.

In the meantime, it's a little scary seeing how many modules are using Module::Build without any clue how portable it actually is.

Mea culpa: I've occasionally tried it on cygwin and had many test failures; I haven't had time to look further into them and been reluctant to report them without at least a making a stab at providing a patch. FWIW, on a current cygwin snapshot, using the stock cygwin perl release, I get:

Failed Test    Stat Wstat Total Fail  Failed  List of Failed
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t/compat.t                   57    1   1.75%  53
t/install.t                  27    1   3.70%  20
t/manifypods.t   22  5632    21   38 180.95%  3-21
t/runthrough.t               28    6  21.43%  14-17 19-20
1 test skipped.
Failed 4/10 test scripts, 60.00% okay. 27/188 subtests failed, 85.64% 
+okay.

[hv]

I think it would be helpful if the interface is basically stable before it goes into the core. I wouldn't expect it to be bugfree on all platforms where perl builds.

Hugo