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Re: Let us give thanks for princepawn shall whine no more

by footpad (Abbot)
on Nov 27, 2000 at 20:58 UTC ( #43510=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

in reply to Let us give thanks for princepawn shall whine no more


May I humbly suggest that you take a few moments to reflect on what you want out of this site and your participation in it?

You appear to know Perl quite well. The fact that you've published something in TPJ is a good thing. Since you offer consulting services, you clearly have a certain amount of confidence with the language and its idiosyncracies. These are accomplishements to be proud of.

Unfortunately, you appear to be somewhat, er, agressive when defending your ideas and/or presenting conclusions you've drawn from your observations.

This is where, I think, you're rubbing people a little raw.

As nearly everyone's grandmother has said at some point: You'll attract more flies with honey than vinegar.

If, as you say, you've got a couple of ideas that will help in that regard, I think you'll find progress toward whatever goals you choose for yourself.

It may help to consider the Monastary as a team of professionals, each offering free advice in their spare moments. I'm not sure what your workload is, but I'm reasonably certain that some folks spend far too much time out here, at the risk of their deadlines. Personally, I call that dedication, something worthy of respect in itself.

It may also help to review the posts from monks who consistently demonstrate a genuine desire to help others learn perl as well as they do. With no disrespect to anyone not listed in the following, here's a short list of the people I've come to respect over the last several weeks (in no particular order): merlyn, vroom, chromatic, ybiC, tilly, jcwren, Fastolfe, PsychoSpunk, japhy, Ovid, kudra, and several others that I can't recall off the top of my head. Each of these have gone out of their way to share their knowledge and to invest their time into specific problems.

I believe you'll find these folks rarely make absolute statements or wild claims. Sure, there are noted exceptions, with appropriate reputations on those posts. However, the overall tendency seems to be a spirit of teamwork and a desire to promote the best practices of Perl.

My point is: There is more than one way to earn accolades, but respect can only be earned through demonstrated commitment to an ideal. It takes a lot of hard work. It also takes the maturity to accept ones limitations and mistakes. We need to learn from what we do poorly and move on. Work with the team toward the goals of the Monastary.

You're clearly capable of doing the work and you've expressed a willingness to do it. Good.

Let's move on and see how things progress, okay?


P.S. I would also suggest you choose a single 'nym and stick with it. Multiple personalities don't appear to be overly popular here. Also, please try to avoid trolling.

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Re: (2) Let us give thanks... (constructive criticism of the year award to footpad)
by ybiC (Prior) on Nov 27, 2000 at 21:53 UTC
    I normally refrain from posting "I agree" and "me too" nodes.

    But (aside from mistaking me as being clueful {grin} ) this is the best example of constructive criticism I've seen in a damian1301's age.   footpad++ for both message and delivery.
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