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Re: Idea for another interesting node

by ambs (Pilgrim)
on Mar 31, 2005 at 20:30 UTC ( #443959=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Idea for another interesting node

I think PerlMonks is not a game where you try to do things to get the Best Node, the Worst Node, to have more experience or less experience. PerlMonks should be a place where people can discuss, learn and teach Perl.

Meanwhile, Experience Points are important so people answer to questions. If this kind of reward didn't exist most people would just ask, and never answer.

Another interesting thing about Experience Points is that it let you know how good are your answers.

Alberto Simões

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Re^2: Idea for another interesting node
by kelan (Deacon) on Mar 31, 2005 at 21:50 UTC

    If this kind of reward didn't exist most people would just ask, and never answer.

    I think people would still answer questions even if there were no XP. Look at the Perl mailing lists. People asking there still get answers, and the responders don't get any "reward" except for feeling good about helping out.

    Another interesting thing about Experience Points is that it let you know how good are your answers.

    This isn't necessarily true, either. Plausible sounding answers often get upvoted even if they are wrong.

      So far, I've found that if you're submitting a plausible sounding wrong error in the hopes of grubbing for XP, that it's best to have a well formatted, plausible sounding wrong answer.

      Um...was that out loud?

      Actually, to some degree, I think that there are plenty of people with different personalities out there. There probably are those who are concerned with cheating the system, and think that XP on Perl Monks is their path on the way to ... um... well, something. Anyway, there are those that like helping out, there are those that like showing off how much they know, and there are those that just like being complete asses in public forums. (and I say that after years of various online forums from BBSes/MUDs/Usenet/mailing lists/etc.) Nothing's really changed over the years, just the scope of people contributing, so you end up with more extreme people -- the people who really like to help, or really like being obnoxious.

      But, let's face it ... people contribute to CPAN, and they don't get anything in return, other than maybe some noteriety. (see the gift economics discussion in the Suffering from CPAN guilt thread) Sure, there's a chance that you might get a job indirectly from posting to CPAN or Perl Monks, but most people aren't contributing because they're expecting something back, other than maybe feeling good about themselves for helping others.

      Personally, I tend to contribute because I'm bored and/or procrastinating from doing other things (eg, I probably should be doing my taxes right now, or my homework for class next week.) Yeah, it'd be nice for someone else to learn from my past mistakes, so they don't have to make them, or to make other people think about new and interesting things, but well, I haven't figured out how to turn that into a viable economic model, or to help me in my plans for world conquest, so I'll just accept that ... um ... I should probably go do my homework now.

Re^2: Idea for another interesting node
by cazz (Pilgrim) on Mar 31, 2005 at 21:25 UTC
    I don't see his request as a "I want to win at perlmonks" request. I see his request as a "You know, here is yet another way to learn interesting stuff."

    I never look at "Worst Nodes", but I commonly look at "Best Nodes", because quite often "Best Nodes" contains nifty solutions to problems. Having a "most change in 5 days" is yet another pointer to nodes that might contain something interesting. I don't see how this could be a bad thing.

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