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Re: Re: Why use Templates at all?

by amelinda (Friar)
on Dec 28, 2000 at 01:08 UTC ( #48526=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

in reply to Re: Why use Templates at all?
in thread Why use Templates at all?

Yuck. It reads like a combination marketingdroid-artiste.

Am I alone in wishing that we could have a media-free1 environment in which people could express their ideas without their message being tweaked by layout or fonts or backgrounds or "vision" - am I the only dyed-in-the-wool intellectual left? I want to hear ideas, not hype.

1 media, plural of medium, meaning the materials used to make a presentation, like canvas, oil, <blink> tags, clay, VRML objects, ink, Ariel fonts, and so on. I'd settle for a "one-medium" environment2.

2 Like lynx intended... Gahhhh. This belongs on or something.

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Re: Re: Re: Why use Templates at all?
by coreolyn (Parson) on Dec 28, 2000 at 01:31 UTC

    While I enjoy your vile distaste for the specious nature of information delivery, I am more amused by sophistic approach you use to proclaim your view as intellectual.

    Should we have quit building homes out of mud?

    I completely agree that the purity of minimalism is virtuous, but it assumes that 'ideas' can only be expressed through a medium of words-concepts. It denies genius and creative expression given via color, shape, and demension. Not that I've seen any media that expresses genius such as this yet, but we are still in a genesis of the technology.

    While I can quite sympathize with what you must view as a total bastardization of purity, I'm actually more excited by the new concepts and idea's that arise from those that have yet to find the tools they require to adequately express their ideas-intellect to the world.


      I see I have, in my distaste for hype, given you reason to conflate my attitude regarding the tone of the article mentioned and your assumptions about my attitude towards the potential inherent in the new media that computers and the Internet provide to those talented with the gift of creativity.1 My apologies.

      I'd like to point out that I did not say, "all communication should be media-free." I said that I would like to see a place where communication could occur in a media-free environment. I have a dream ... of people discussing ideas and philosophies calmly and rationally, considering them on their own merits instead of the hype that surrounds them2. Perhaps that doesn't make me an intellectual; it makes me a freak.

      I wrote several further paragraphs in this vein, but then discussed at length essentially the same topic in the cheddarbox and elected to delete what would be little more than an invitation to flame.

      "To rational thought, and the pursuit of dreams, two commodities that seem to be in short supply these days: May they always complement each other, and may they never need collide."

      1 3 Ah, the joy of large vocabularies. :)
      2 See Also: American Presidential Races, post-1960.
      3 Footnotes are your friends.

        An apology is never required from those that can so clearly enunciate the errors of my ways in such a succinct fashion1.

        You said,

          I have a dream ... of people discussing ideas and philosophies calmly and rationally, considering them on their own merits instead of the hype that surrounds them.

        This statement, and your comfort with an misguided and arrogantly prolix2 reply undoubtedly put you in the category of freak3. But humanity has always insisted that normalcy be defined by the largest number of morons possible; Therefore your abnormal qualities reflect the highest of ambitions4, and I applaud the pursuit of your dream.5

        Thanks for not just pursuing a flamfest and your closing quote. I can't seem to locate one that is nearly as appropriate.


        1 As it turns out I did misread your statement -- my bad.
        2 A large vocabulary is more a curse than a joy. I seldom utilize it as it seems to isolate me from the majority of people I encounter.
        3 one that is markedly unusual or abnormal: Merriam-Webster
        4Requires Real Audio.
        5 And thank you for pointing out footnotes -- now I have to figure out how not to abuse them :)

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