Re^6: How much Perl6 have we got?

[thor]

None of that changest the fact that Perl6 is HERE and it is HERE NOW!

But Perl 6 isn't here now...that's the whole point. Pugs, while an impressive project, can only be as far along as the actual Perl 6 spec. And, since the edge cases are still being worked out in that, it cannot be an implementation of Perl 6.

[eric256]

It cannot be a *full* implementation. Not being full doesn't change the fact that you can write code in the perl 6 langauge. Since things are still changing and evolving in perl5 I would say edge cases will always exist. That said i certainly don't think perl 6 is done, that would be a ridiculous claim as you can watch the mailing lists and see many important things still being hammered out. The point is, perl 6 is here. Not for production, not for anything serious. But for learning perl 6 and being involved in perl 6 it is here now and you can code in it. Since i've written several perl 6 programs that run you will have a hard time convincing me that perl 6 isn't here. If it isn't here then what is running those programs? Honestly, like i said before, we are just defining terms differently. If you say its not here until the entire spec is completed and all edge cases are handled then we certainly don't have a perl 6. I feel that is a rather constrictive definition though. Either way there is no argueing that if you want to code in perl 6 for fun, you can do so with pugs. Maybe it will change, maybe your code will break, that is the hazard of playing in the beggining.

[ysth]

Since things are still changing and evolving in perl5 I would say edge cases will always exist.

A case in point: http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=[e-mail]

And I don't hear people saying that perl5 isn't usable because the spec isn't complete.