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Re: Pages often too wide (link)

by tye (Sage)
on Feb 08, 2006 at 06:28 UTC ( #528739=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

in reply to Pages often too wide

Does Re^2: Monastery Gates page is too wide (causes) explain your particular problem?

Update: It wasn't a rhetorical question, but it looks like no answer is coming.

- tye        

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Re^2: Pages often too wide (link)
by rinceWind (Monsignor) on Feb 08, 2006 at 11:01 UTC

    I agree with your original sentiments that this should be a faqlet. When I see the tell tale horizontal scrollbar, I usually make the effort to determine which writeup has the offending long line, and put it up for editing consideration.

    A special case of 2 which deserves mentioning is long URLs, which can be shortened by replacing them with pipe links.


    Oh Lord, won’t you burn me a Knoppix CD ?
    My friends all rate Windows, I must disagree.
    Your powers of persuasion will set them all free,
    So oh Lord, won’t you burn me a Knoppix CD ?
    (Missquoting Janis Joplin)

Re^2: Pages often too wide (link)
by spiritway (Vicar) on Feb 12, 2006 at 19:05 UTC
    ...It wasn't a rhetorical question, but it looks like no answer is coming.

    Sorry, tye, I thought it was a rhetorical question. My apologies.

    Actually, your reference does explain the problem, which apparently is one that would likely affect everyone. The page on which this problem occurred was one in which there were long strings of code without whitespace. I've got Auto Code Wrap going, have the wrap width set to 50 (I even tried 20, with no effect), and still got the effect. My screen is wide enough (1280 px.). Thanks for referring me to the article - it was indeed helpful in explaining what was going on.

      So then the source of the problem is that you are using a browser that doesn't support soft hyphen (which, amazingly, FireFox still doesn't support) and the work-around is to disable "auto" code wrapping (or switch browsers).

      If you didn't "get" that from the linked note, then suggestions on how to make it clearer would be appreciated (I already see plenty of room for improving clarity there, but was hoping one of tbe wordsmiths would greatly improve it when making a sitefaqlet out of it).

      - tye        

        FWIW, they’re not going to fix this in Gecko for the time being, because the relevant code is already a mess and long due for a complete overhaul. Currently, the entire rendering code is being reworked to use Cairo as the backend, which is supposed to allow taking advantage of hardware acceleration. It will also get rid of most of the 2D drawing code in Gecko, since that will be Cairo’s job. In the course of all that, the text layout code is due for a massive refactoring, and one of the byproducts of that will be soft hyphen support.

        The bottom line is that it will take quite a while yet until Gecko has that support, but it will happen.

        Makeshifts last the longest.

        No, actually your node was clear. I'll experiment some more when I run into the problem again (I can't seem to find the page that was giving me problems). I think your sitefaqlet is just fine the way it is. Maybe just remove some of the stuff that relates to that particular thread.

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